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8 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2005 - 4:35PM #11
ieattrollsforbreakfast
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Bravo Fireball Mage!
Both articles were a joy to read, they gave a real insight into the dragonmarked houses. I am currently playing an heir of Vadalis, so the ideas you have provided will be very valuable in indeed! You have done a great job with Medani, you have really helped me to define what it means to be an heir of Medani, and provided several great ideas for plot hooks and NPCs along the way!
Once more, excellent job :D
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8 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2005 - 4:44PM #12
Gurv
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Request: Do House Orien. They seem to get a lot of attention in official material, but most people think of them as teleporters and the operators of the lightning rail. I was surprised to find that my players didn't even realize that some of the Mark of Passage powers allowed flight and summoned mounts.
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8 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2005 - 4:45PM #13
Solarious
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Sarlax]Another good article. I'd suggest that you say not only that Medani employs changelings but that there are actually many changelings in the family. Over the centuries, those close working relationships will often developed into romances and marriages.


Not likely: while it is entirely possible that changling agents and Medani heirs may develop romantic attachments, they won't be accepted into the family because they cannot carry the mark within their bloodline and will never be able to say lawfully that they are a d'Medani. Read City of Towers and see how the matriarchs/patriarchs tend to marry the 'marked with other 'marked in a attempt to devlop more children with dragonmarks.

As for the article, excellent work. I shall be expecting them every week, towards the end of the week. If this schedule is inturrupted for some reason not explained, expect several e-mails poking you to post from me. Just to remind you. wrote:

Another good article. I'd suggest that you say not only that Medani employs changelings but that there are actually many changelings in the family. Over the centuries, those close working relationships will often developed into romances and marriages.[/quote]
Not likely: while it is entirely possible that changling agents and Medani heirs may develop romantic attachments, they won't be accepted into the family because they cannot carry the mark within their bloodline and will never be able to say lawfully that they are a d'Medani. Read City of Towers and see how the matriarchs/patriarchs tend to marry the 'marked with other 'marked in a attempt to devlop more children with dragonmarks.

As for the article, excellent work. I shall be expecting them every week, towards the end of the week. If this schedule is inturrupted for some reason not explained, expect several e-mails poking you to post from me. Just to remind you.

And stabbity death is always a good death. Most people just don't realize it.

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8 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2005 - 7:47PM #14
The_Fireballed_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2003
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ieattrollsforbreakfast]Bravo Fireball Mage!


That's Fireballed Mage. Small change, big difference. :D

Bravo Fireball Mage![/quote]
That's Fireballed Mage. Small change, big difference. :D


Both articles were a joy to read, they gave a real insight into the dragonmarked houses. I am currently playing an heir of Vadalis, so the ideas you have provided will be very valuable in indeed! You have done a great job with Medani, you have really helped me to define what it means to be an heir of Medani, and provided several great ideas for plot hooks and NPCs along the way!


Excellent...

I am glad that people are finding these useful. I've been on the boards since before the Eberron roll out, and have noticed a lack of love about the Houses. I don't think most DMs or players deal with guilds on a regular basis in their games, except for thieves guilds, so providing ideas is something most will benefit from.

Sarlax]Another good article. I'd suggest that you say not only that Medani employs changelings but that there are actually many changelings in the family. Over the centuries, those close working relationships will often developed into romances and marriages.


Like Solarious suggested, the bloodline you bring into the House is a serious issue. I see even the most open of the Houses as being pretty elitist when it comes to marriage and the blood. You can have lovers and affairs on the side, but marriages affect the future of the House bloodline and the Mark in question, so outsiders with no chance of strengthing the blood of the House are only rarely let in.

Besides, with how paranoid most Medani members are, I doubt they really feel comfortable with anyone outside the family.

Another good article. I'd suggest that you say not only that Medani employs changelings but that there are actually many changelings in the family. Over the centuries, those close working relationships will often developed into romances and marriages.[/quote]
Like Solarious suggested, the bloodline you bring into the House is a serious issue. I see even the most open of the Houses as being pretty elitist when it comes to marriage and the blood. You can have lovers and affairs on the side, but marriages affect the future of the House bloodline and the Mark in question, so outsiders with no chance of strengthing the blood of the House are only rarely let in.

Besides, with how paranoid most Medani members are, I doubt they really feel comfortable with anyone outside the family.

Gurv]Request: Do House Orien. They seem to get a lot of attention in official material, but most people think of them as teleporters and the operators of the lightning rail. I was surprised to find that my players didn't even realize that some of the Mark of Passage powers allowed flight and summoned mounts.


I hope to get to all the Houses eventually (although, maybe not the ones Hellcow does Dragonshards on). Orien is not on my short-list of completed ones yet, but I will get something on it at some point.

Request: Do House Orien. They seem to get a lot of attention in official material, but most people think of them as teleporters and the operators of the lightning rail. I was surprised to find that my players didn't even realize that some of the Mark of Passage powers allowed flight and summoned mounts.[/quote]
I hope to get to all the Houses eventually (although, maybe not the ones Hellcow does Dragonshards on). Orien is not on my short-list of completed ones yet, but I will get something on it at some point.

Solarious]If this schedule is inturrupted for some reason not explained, expect several e-mails poking you to post from me. Just to remind you. wrote:

If this schedule is inturrupted for some reason not explained, expect several e-mails poking you to post from me. Just to remind you.

And stabbity death is always a good death. Most people just don't realize it.


Maybe I should try it; it would be a nice change. Most of the time I die from my arcane experiements detonating in my face. So much so that I get a bulk discount on my raise dead at the local Jorasco enclave. :P

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8 years ago  ::  Jun 10, 2005 - 8:09PM #15
Solarious
Date Joined: May 8, 2003
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As you command: when I come for you, it will be with a dull, rusty, jagged dagger adressed to 'occupant'. :evillaugh

Don't worry, I'll leave enough of you to drag back to the enclave...
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8 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2005 - 9:48AM #16
ccerose
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Excellent work. This will also be useful in my campaign. So far, the PCs have dealt with both House Medani and House Vedalis and these writeups will greatuly assist in fleshing out the world.

Cheers
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8 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2005 - 11:23AM #17
Sarlax
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The Fireballed Mage]Like Solarious suggested, the bloodline you bring into the House is a serious issue. I see even the most open of the Houses as being pretty elitist when it comes to marriage and the blood. You can have lovers and affairs on the side, but marriages affect the future of the House bloodline and the Mark in question, so outsiders with no chance of strengthing the blood of the House are only rarely let in.

Besides, with how paranoid most Medani members are, I doubt they really feel comfortable with anyone outside the family.


Blood is a very effective way to ensure loyalty. The issue of "outsiders" isn't so strong that it would prevent intermarriage. After all, we are talking about human(oids), a notoriously active group. Although marriage itself might not be common, affairs certainly would be. There's a reason why changelings have a borderline monopoly on the brothel business in Sharn.

Additionally, it's already been noted that other houses can have members of other races. House Orien and Cannith certainly have half-elves and a few half-orcs in their numbers. Even if they'll never have a mark, they're still family.

I'm reminded of Goodfellas here when Henry Hill narrates that he and Jimmy will never be made. They're half-bloods. They can be soldiers, but only a full-blooded Italian can be a ma wrote:

Like Solarious suggested, the bloodline you bring into the House is a serious issue. I see even the most open of the Houses as being pretty elitist when it comes to marriage and the blood. You can have lovers and affairs on the side, but marriages affect the future of the House bloodline and the Mark in question, so outsiders with no chance of strengthing the blood of the House are only rarely let in.

Besides, with how paranoid most Medani members are, I doubt they really feel comfortable with anyone outside the family.[/quote]
Blood is a very effective way to ensure loyalty. The issue of "outsiders" isn't so strong that it would prevent intermarriage. After all, we are talking about human(oids), a notoriously active group. Although marriage itself might not be common, affairs certainly would be. There's a reason why changelings have a borderline monopoly on the brothel business in Sharn.

Additionally, it's already been noted that other houses can have members of other races. House Orien and Cannith certainly have half-elves and a few half-orcs in their numbers. Even if they'll never have a mark, they're still family.

I'm reminded of Goodfellas here when Henry Hill narrates that he and Jimmy will never be made. They're half-bloods. They can be soldiers, but only a full-blooded Italian can be a made-man.

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8 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2005 - 6:21PM #18
The_Fireballed_Mage
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Sarlax]Blood is a very effective way to ensure loyalty.


Medani probably thinks differently. After centuries of preventing clients from being bumped off by family members, the House probably finds the phrase "Blood is thicker than water," to crack them up everytime.

Blood is a very effective way to ensure loyalty.[/quote]
Medani probably thinks differently. After centuries of preventing clients from being bumped off by family members, the House probably finds the phrase "Blood is thicker than water," to crack them up everytime.

Additionally, it's already been noted that other houses can have members of other races. House Orien and Cannith certainly have half-elves and a few half-orcs in their numbers. Even if they'll never have a mark, they're still family.


I never meant to say that the Houses never accept 'outsiders' in, only that it probably is pretty rare. Every time you allow a blood heir to marry someone who can't carry the Mark, you're sacrificing the future profitability and power of your House.

Welcoming someone into a guild is fine. Letting them marry your sister...

In my games there will be 'outsiders' in the Houses, but each and every one of them will have to have their own story of how they and their loved one overcame the disapproving glare from the rest of the family.

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8 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2005 - 8:37PM #19
zombiegleemax
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The Fireballed Mage]Ex-Medani agents:

The pressure of constantly watching for invisible enemies is hard on the psyche. Many elder Medani members suffer from some level of paranoia. While it is part of their job to be paranoid, in a few cases all that stress causes them to crack. With the amount of inside knowledge these agents possess, what form their insanity takes can lead to serious problems.


I LOVE LOVE LOVE that aspect of the house. If i may make a suggestion............. SLEEP, EAT, BREATHE LESS wrote:

Ex-Medani agents:

The pressure of constantly watching for invisible enemies is hard on the psyche. Many elder Medani members suffer from some level of paranoia. While it is part of their job to be paranoid, in a few cases all that stress causes them to crack. With the amount of inside knowledge these agents possess, what form their insanity takes can lead to serious problems.[/quote]
I LOVE LOVE LOVE that aspect of the house. If i may make a suggestion............. SLEEP, EAT, BREATHE LESS; WRITE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! you are offically one of the bestest (i know no such word exists but it does for now) posters on these boards. keep em comming,

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8 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2005 - 9:54AM #20
zombiegleemax
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The Fireballed Mage]House Medani

“ wrote:

House Medani

[i]“Exactly why am I paying you again?  I’ve never seen you do a thing.”

“Good.  If you ever see me working, it means your life is in real danger.”


LOL wery god indeed

:heehee

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