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1 year ago ::
Jun 09, 2008 - 9:17PM
#4311
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Let me see if I have this straight. The dark-skinned elves in your game (Black skin, last time I checked) are inherently evil. Because goodness is incompatible with being a drow (black), any good-tending drow are now Brown (with black hair). The "good" drow (black) goddess had to be removed to make it more challenging for a drow to be "good," since it's just so inconcievable.
-As I said a few moments ago...Oh, I'll just copy and paste it...
"-I think, right now, this is the biggest misconception.
-The "Dark Elves" aren't necessarily good. Just like Drow aren't necessarily evil. Hallistra, the Lady Penitent, would have been transformed, as she was a Melarn, a family that descended from "good" Miyeritari blood. Had she survived much past the casting that transformed her, what were the odds she would have arbitrarily turned a new leaf? Slim. Likewise, Drizzt Do'Urden is a Drow still, having come from a family that was descended from "evil" Ilythiiri blood. Yet, 100 +/- years from now, Drizzt is still the "good guy" we all know him as."
PS Why is it that Drizzt's complexion has "lightened" in cover art after his popularity increased?
-As Rauric mentioned, it was detail in artwork, actually. Make a picture using jet black, and you can't see those details and outlines (which would have been drawn using black ink).
What's the problem?
-Realmslore.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 6:22AM
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Not only is it entirely possible, but this pic was from 1990's Valley of the Mage.[/quote]
That's not remotely "drow black" -- the sunlit areas of skin are brown and the shadowy areas blue. If that painting was done with "proper" drow colors, the lit areas would be pitch black and the ones in shade even blacker.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 7:44AM
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Important Question:
I have just caught wind of something VERY disturbing - a line has been adding to the GSL (4e's OGL) that states that there will be a new fansite policy, and heard speculation that this is to prevent fan-conversions of 4e material to 3e, and vice-versa. The idea is that if you want to play with the 4e rules, you MUST use the 4e settings. I was aware that companies were not allowed to simultaneously produce 3e and 4e material, but this appears to directly attack the fans now.
Is this true? :uh-huh:
If that's true then more reasons not to even buy anything from WotC for the rest of my life.
WotC score: -500
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:30AM
#4314
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Is there any word on when (and if) there will be a conversion of 4ed compatible products, in particular Anauroch?
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 11:22AM
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If that's true then more reasons not to even buy anything from WotC for the rest of my life.
WotC score: -500
Agreed.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 11:22AM
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We've debated the question of drow alignment around the office. It's pretty clear to us that drow society has many lawful elements--a caste system, for example--but Lolth is pretty darned chaotic. Our take on the situation is that this accounts for a lot of the discontent and uncertainty in drow society. Left to their own devices, drow houses would happily establish a pecking order and then rule their own little fiefdoms in the accustomed manner. But Lolth's priestesses, the most powerful caste in the society, are always guessing about what would make Lolth happy and trying to get in front. Regarding the art look of the drow: Basically, until Todd Lockwood was willing to take a try at true inky black, most other artists have gone with brown or gray or purple for drow skin tones. We're not trying to pass out any kind of message with our depictions of the drow--we're just happy that someone is finally painting them the way we've always said they looked.
I was thinking about this, myself. I'm not Rich, but I can share my thoughts about it:
I do think it's a bit wonky that Lolth won't allow "evil" clerics. Did 4E retain something like the 3E one-step rule? If so, that might explain it. "Evil" is now quite similar to the old LE (from what I understand).
As for the average drow alignment not matching up with Lolths--I can sort of buy that. After all, Lolth has always been CE, but even back when 3E came out, drow were considered to be usually NE. You don't have to be the same alignment as a deity simply to worship said deity.
The good thing about alignment in 4E, is that it is no longer so tied to mechanics, so you can just tweak it or ditch it entirely if you want. I'd love Rich to share his thoughts on this myself, though.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 11:33AM
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This is as good a place to ask as anywhere...
Rich, are there plans to release an actual Sava game, complete with all the wacky rules for hiding, adding, switching pieces similar to that portrayed in recent books? I realize it's like chess, but it's also clearly different. I think it will do really well at the FLGS.[/quote]
I'll ask again since it wasn't answered.
Also, wanna get on these IT guys, to improve the bandwidth or something, these forums are consistently laggy...
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 11:34AM
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A few dodgy answers for you, sorry... 1. I would expect so, but I don't know of any yet. I have only the broadest familiarity with what other authors are up to, since my day job is focused on gameside R&D, not book team stuff. So I could very well be wrong. 2. We address that in the upcoming FRCG and FRPG. I don't want to issue any pantheon spoilers yet. 3. Sorcerers will get flying a little faster than wizards do, but keep in mind, Sarth's flight might be derived from a magic item. That said -- yeah, I think most of the Swordmage characters are around level 10 to 15. 4. Corsair begins about 5 months after Swordmage ends. It should be published around the same time in '09 that Swordmage appeared in '08, maybe a bit earlier. I'm about 2/3rds of the way through my first draft. It's definitely action-packed! Geran's chasing pirates all over the Moonsea -- pirates allied with Sergen and Rhovann.
Few Questions Rich... :D
1. IS anyone writing novel/s about/with Dragonborn character in the near Future?
2. Since Dragonborn came from different world, what Gods are they mainly worshipping in FR or what Gods have they adopted since coming?
3. Fly spell seems to be 16 Level Utility Wizard Power in PHB, Can you tell me are the characters in Swordmage around level 15-17 Since Sarth could Fly or is that Power lower for Sorcerers.
4. How is Corsair coming along and can you tell us any spoilers about it yet?
Maybe how long time has passed between it and Swordmage, and are there gonna be new faces and who old ones stick around, something. Also any info about publishing date? (Can't WAIT!)
:cool: :D
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 12:20PM
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So Drow are Lawful Chaotic and Lolth is just plain wack? :uh-huh:
Still didn't answer the question as to how Lolth's followers worship her, when it is clearly against the RAW. Maybe you can have one of the guys who wrote the rules come on here and explain it to us - Thanks.
Also, any light you can shed on that GSL would be appreciated. Fansites were pretty much left alone in the past, and I was wondering what their status would be with 4e.
One last thing - we are to assume that the promised 'Gods' article will NOT be forthcoming at this point? Was looking forward to updating my FAQ, actually...
Will there be any more 'Countdown' articles at all?
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1 year ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 12:32PM
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See 4e PHB page 62.
I can't do that because my books have not arrived yet.
The allowed cleric alignments per deity alignment are:
lawful good deity - lawful good or unaligned cleric
hood deity - good or unaligned cleric
evil deity - evil or unaligned cleric
chaotic evil deity - chaotic evil or unaligned cleric
unaligned deity - lawful good, good, evil, chaotic evil, or unaigned cleric
I appreciate the information. It looks to me like they've basically retained the one-step rule. I stand by what I said though--that can just be waived as desired, at least if it's true that alignments are no longer mechanically important.
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