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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 11:53AM
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Good to know that there are americans (and I actually belive that americans should ecompase all people living in the american continent, but for the sake of understanding I'll use it's common denomination) who don't belive in "Big is Better".
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 12:26PM
#3932
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A question to guys like Dav and Therise;
Would you really have liked a new edition of the setting who would have done the radical oposite - ie, basicaly much a reprint of what there is, with few changes? Would you have shelled out money for that?
If there is a new edition, is it better that there is at least *some* changes to justify it? Does customers want reprints that much, especially in cases like FR?
This has been addressed by others, but I'll just state the truth in blunt terms:
The argument you've presented here is a false dilemma.
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 12:29PM
#3933
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Now, more the point - WHY does it have to be reprints of things covered? ... How about City books covering something OTHER then Waterdeep, like Baldur's gate, Westgate, or Neverwinter?
I agree with you, but the funny thing here is that Neverwinter has scarcely been covered. Neither has Baldur's Gate, really, even though it (and Neverwinter) was featured in a popular video game.
Which goes to show that even places in the popular North (and apparently, WotC considers that area popular) have never been given that much detail!
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 12:29PM
#3934
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-Why do changes need to be big? The maxim that "Big is Better" is only applicable in Texas. We're not in Texas, nor is their advice particularly educated.
-Hold'em up there partner. :P :D We be really Educated, down here in these here parts!  Yes sir we are! Keep it up I may just get a rope.:D
-Git'er Done!!!:P
18D:heehee
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 1:00PM
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I agree with you, but the funny thing here is that Neverwinter has scarcely been covered. Neither has Baldur's Gate, really, even though it (and Neverwinter) was featured in a popular video game.
Which goes to show that even places in the popular North (and apparently, WotC considers that area popular) have never been given that much detail!
So true. I would've paid big bucks for a detailed sourcebook on either Neverwinter or Baldur's Gate. It would've even been fun to see a book detailing a trade route from Silverymoon to Icewind Dale, with a few adventures, mix-ups, barbarians, giants, and forgotten dwarvish / elvish ruins along the way.
These days when I get requests from new players to DM an FR campaign, it's almost always a group that's been in love with Salvatore's work and they want to "see" what Drizzt and company see, have a few adventures in the same areas, fight some of the same monsters. Fleshing out those regions in more detail than "The North" (2E) and "Silver Marches" (3E) would have been very welcome, and I think big sellers.
Either that, or it's requests for the moonsea or the north underdark. There's just -so- much that they could've still done in 3E, it makes me a little sad.
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 2:44PM
#3936
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I can agree in principle, but that really doesn't mesh well with the new design philosophy of crunch interchangeability. It does indeed suck for us, but there's not much we can do about it.
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 4:09PM
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No worries; I'm glad that you've liked some of the other stuff I've done. I think you'd find Swordmage a lot more "classic Realmish" than "unrecognizably 4eish." If you see it in the bookstore, take it off the shelf, thumb through it, see if it catches your interest. If it doesn't, it doesn't. That's as much as I can ask any potential reader for.
I feel very much the same way. It's a struggle for me getting through Undead by Byers, and I haven't felt any urge to buy Swordmage. The old setting that I liked, it just seems dead now and replaced by some kind of changeling that doesn't have any pull for me.
It's a shame, because I -really- liked Rich Baker's writing. But I just don't have that same urge to go out and buy new FR books, so I probably never will (sorry, Rich). I've also had the same feeling about wanting to pack up my old FR materials and sell them at a used book store.
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 4:11PM
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Not sure, Rauric. I'd hope sometime maybe in late summer or early fall, but I'm just guessing. I'm not involved in scheduling out the Dragon/Dungeon content.
Rich, You mentioned the bard class being in DDI I think. When would this happen? Plus would we see the druid there also or will we just have to wait for PHII?
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 4:18PM
#3939
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I believe it's a shadow dragon.
what is that on the 4e frcs cover, a black dragon, shadow dragon or wyvern Mr. Baker??
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2 years ago ::
May 15, 2008 - 4:26PM
#3940
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The answer's a little hazy. I think that there's a lot of overlap between the two concepts, and that maybe some characters we called "bladesingers" before might really have been swordmages. We've debated around the office whether the bladesinger is a paragon path for the swordmage, or whether something like Coronal Guard Bladesinger of Myth Drannor is a paragon path for swordmage but there are plenty of other types of bladesingers around. In any event, the chief reason I mentioned the bladesinger in Swordmage is because I wanted a "bridge" character back to the Last Mythal, even if it was just a minor character. Daried Selsherryn is the protagonist of my short story "The Bladesinger's Lesson," and gets a passing mention or two in "Final Gate." It just seemed right to have a familiar face in Myth Drannor to serve as Geran's mentor in magic and swordplay.
Not so much a question, but an affirmation:
Rich, it sounds to me like you were letting on in your novel that the Swordmage class was drawn from the Elven traditions of the Bladesinger, and that will be the in-game explanation for it's evolution. Is that assumption correct?
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