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4 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2009 - 7:26PM #31
Feyberry
Date Joined: Jun 25, 2008
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I don't like the fact that WotC is slapping that piece of crap copyright ******** on every single monster. WotC will not ever own any of my intellectual property I create, no matter how many stupid arsed EULA's or copyrights or licences they try to cram into their products. My IP is MY IP.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2009 - 7:42PM #32
Dalzig
Date Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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I think the reason for the copyright is so you can't take THEIR IP, modify it, and claim it as YOUR IP.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2009 - 8:16PM #33
ItaraKoturo
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Feyberry wrote:

I don't like the fact that WotC is slapping that piece of crap copyright ******** on every single monster. WotC will not ever own any of my intellectual property I create, no matter how many stupid arsed EULA's or copyrights or licences they try to cram into their products. My IP is MY IP.


You are not being a reasonable person, and seem intent on ignoring the valid reasons WotC would have for including these things you hate so much.

Consider, in the future, being less spiteful and perhaps more understanding. Knee-jerk reactions do not help anything, at all.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2009 - 8:23PM #34
Feyberry
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There's absolutely no reason for WotC to include that copyright ******** on 100% custom monsters with no connection to any of their products aside from being created for use with D&D 4th edition rules. It's there because their draconian byzantine lawyers made them put it there because they think it will give them ownership of any monsters made using the MonsterBuilder.

They're wrong. My IP. My copyright. I will continue to chop off that copyright notice.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2009 - 9:04PM #35
Herrozerro
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Feyberry wrote:

There's absolutely no reason for WotC to include that copyright ******** on 100% custom monsters with no connection to any of their products aside from being created for use with D&D 4th edition rules. It's there because their draconian byzantine lawyers made them put it there because they think it will give them ownership of any monsters made using the MonsterBuilder.

They're wrong. My IP. My copyright. I will continue to chop off that copyright notice.


You are using their formatting which i believe is their IP.

Why is WotC the Evil Evil Company for trying to protect their IP and you are the righteous paladin of light because you want to rip them off?

Play whatever the **** you want.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 01, 2009 - 9:34PM #36
ToeSama
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Feyberry wrote:

There's absolutely no reason for WotC to include that copyright ******** on 100% custom monsters with no connection to any of their products aside from being created for use with D&D 4th edition rules.


That's actually exactly why they need it. Let's look at it from a commonplace standpoint.

I make a really great game system (My Intellectual Property). You want to make monsters for my system (Your Intellectual Property). I say ok, and show you how to do it. So you go off an make a ton of monsters using My IP. Then you sell them for a profit as your IP, and not give me a cut of the profit earned when, clearly, I did half of the work by making the system you created monsters for in the first place. If I didn't make sure that I had a right to that money by saying that you need to include a copyright for the system with your monsters, I'd be losing a lot of money that should rightfully be mine.

Wizards has every right to tag that copyright on there, because you're using their work to create your own. Even if they don't own your monster, they own the system, formatting, and general guidelines by which you made said monster.

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4 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2009 - 2:23AM #37
Feyberry
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If I make a ton of great monsters for your IP and it helps you sell even more core rulebooks, you're profiting as well. And no, they don't have any right to stick a copyright on anything I create.

Finally, you can't copyright formatting. That's all a statblock is. It doesn't matter how it's formatted. It's the content that matters. How well do you think it would go over if I could somehow claim copyright over the novel format? Everyone would laugh their ass off at such a claim.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2009 - 4:41AM #38
ToeSama
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Think what you want, but don't blame anyone but yourself when you end up having to eat your own words...
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2009 - 6:10AM #39
Dane_McArdy
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Oh you guys. You are being too serious about this.

1. I seriously doubt that WoTC is interested in stealing your monster ideas. Considering they probably have MM3 close to ready to go, and MM4 outlined and started, they are ahead of the game.

2. Most of the time, when I see player generated content, I don't like it. I include myself in this category as well. Generally, in most cases, what works for an individual is to customized to their specific needs over general usefulness. And then there is the whole segment of just god awful ideas.

3. If you are really worried that WoTC is going to claim your monster are theirs, then build them, but don't save them. Take a screen shot, or whatever. If your paranoia runs that strong, don't do stuff that you feel is risky.

4. Get some education about the subject. PLEASE.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 02, 2009 - 7:28AM #40
Herrozerro
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Fewberry, You can do whatever you want, but please dont tell others to do what you want them to do.

You wouldnt post on here "hey guys you can get all the 4e books for free from X site!" Why are you posting "Hey guys just take the copyright symbol off the generated formatting?"

The Character Sheet has a copyright on it. Do you blank that out when you create a character? Does WotC want your characters as well?
Play whatever the **** you want.

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