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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 5:33AM #191
Rau7
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2011
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I can print OK (Chrome, WinXP), and can use a PDF printer (CutePDF) - but one thing I've noticed is the unbelievable *size* of the data file CB is sending to the printer.  It's over 120 MB per page - the finished PDF, when I'm making them, is about 1 MB per page.  I figure that the PDF will have *some* compression... but 100-to-1?!?  No other application that I run on my computer seems to send such enormous files to a print device.

I also get *frequent* "Silverlight not responding" alerts while I use the CB.  What is going on with the memory management?
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1 year ago  ::  Apr 20, 2012 - 6:06PM #192
Mithreinmaethor
Date Joined: May 23, 2005
Posts: 3,130

Apr 20, 2012 -- 5:33AM, Rau7 wrote:

I can print OK (Chrome, WinXP), and can use a PDF printer (CutePDF) - but one thing I've noticed is the unbelievable *size* of the data file CB is sending to the printer.  It's over 120 MB per page - the finished PDF, when I'm making them, is about 1 MB per page.  I figure that the PDF will have *some* compression... but 100-to-1?!?  No other application that I run on my computer seems to send such enormous files to a print device.

I also get *frequent* "Silverlight not responding" alerts while I use the CB.  What is going on with the memory management?




I don't know if it has been said in this thread before or not but Silverlight 4 (which the CB is built in) does not have any native print support. So when you are printing from the CB it is printing a large image file.  This is where the huge spool size problems came from.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 24, 2012 - 4:19PM #193
Rau7
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2011
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Apr 20, 2012 -- 6:06PM, Mithreinmaethor wrote:

Apr 20, 2012 -- 5:33AM, Rau7 wrote:

I can print OK (Chrome, WinXP), and can use a PDF printer (CutePDF) - but one thing I've noticed is the unbelievable *size* of the data file CB is sending to the printer.  It's over 120 MB per page - the finished PDF, when I'm making them, is about 1 MB per page.  I figure that the PDF will have *some* compression... but 100-to-1?!?  No other application that I run on my computer seems to send such enormous files to a print device.

I also get *frequent* "Silverlight not responding" alerts while I use the CB.  What is going on with the memory management?




I don't know if it has been said in this thread before or not but Silverlight 4 (which the CB is built in) does not have any native print support. So when you are printing from the CB it is printing a large image file.  This is where the huge spool size problems came from.


Thanks, Mithreinmaethor.  

I saw that there was some issues concerning Silverlight 4, but nothing about its print support.

The spool size *still* seems rather large at 120+MB per page - one page from the PDF printout I get from CutePDF is 2550 x 3300, at I assume 3 bytes per pixel, which would be about a 25MB bitmap per page... it's as if CB is sending the images of all the pages, each time it's asking the printer to produce 1 page.

It just seems like a major software development issue (like, a pre-beta issue), unless a character made in CB is only viewed in CB.

Unless there's an application that can parse the .dnd4e export files?  Seems like an XML derivative.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 25, 2012 - 7:59PM #194
Mithreinmaethor
Date Joined: May 23, 2005
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Apr 24, 2012 -- 4:19PM, Rau7 wrote:

Apr 20, 2012 -- 6:06PM, Mithreinmaethor wrote:

Apr 20, 2012 -- 5:33AM, Rau7 wrote:

I can print OK (Chrome, WinXP), and can use a PDF printer (CutePDF) - but one thing I've noticed is the unbelievable *size* of the data file CB is sending to the printer.  It's over 120 MB per page - the finished PDF, when I'm making them, is about 1 MB per page.  I figure that the PDF will have *some* compression... but 100-to-1?!?  No other application that I run on my computer seems to send such enormous files to a print device.

I also get *frequent* "Silverlight not responding" alerts while I use the CB.  What is going on with the memory management?




I don't know if it has been said in this thread before or not but Silverlight 4 (which the CB is built in) does not have any native print support. So when you are printing from the CB it is printing a large image file.  This is where the huge spool size problems came from.


Thanks, Mithreinmaethor.  

I saw that there was some issues concerning Silverlight 4, but nothing about its print support.

The spool size *still* seems rather large at 120+MB per page - one page from the PDF printout I get from CutePDF is 2550 x 3300, at I assume 3 bytes per pixel, which would be about a 25MB bitmap per page... it's as if CB is sending the images of all the pages, each time it's asking the printer to produce 1 page.

It just seems like a major software development issue (like, a pre-beta issue), unless a character made in CB is only viewed in CB.

Unless there's an application that can parse the .dnd4e export files?  Seems like an XML derivative.




When you are using a print to pdf program you need to make sure to set it so that it prints to 144 or 150 DPI each time otherwise it is going to be a huge file since its trying to print an image to pdf.  Most of my PDFCreator character pdf's range from .8 to 3.8 megs at 150 dpi.

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 13, 2013 - 3:43PM #195
Miradorel
Date Joined: Jun 4, 2012
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Anyone found a solution for the Mac community and the cut at the end of the pages?  After 2 years of begging, shouldn't we have a solution?  Thanks for anyone who may have a solution.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2013 - 1:26AM #196
GreenOnion
Date Joined: Nov 25, 2010
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Jan 13, 2013 -- 3:43PM, Miradorel wrote:

Anyone found a solution for the Mac community and the cut at the end of the pages?  After 2 years of begging, shouldn't we have a solution?  Thanks for anyone who may have a solution.


Don't think this going to happen. Frown

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3 months ago  ::  Apr 07, 2013 - 1:58PM #197
Calion
Date Joined: Oct 21, 2005
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Gak! I can't believe this. I've tried saving to PDF, I've tried choosing "Scale to fit paper size"...I have no idea why this is happening. I'll submit a bug report, but this shouldn't be a problem.
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