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4 years ago ::
May 07, 2009 - 12:41PM
#381
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So it comes down to a choice. If all you want is the VTT, don't subscribe.
I would add something to that. If all you want is the VTT, then don't subscribe, and let WotC know (by letter) that you are not subscribing because the VTT isn't out yet.
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4 years ago ::
May 07, 2009 - 12:44PM
#382
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Date Joined:
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As much as I hate to say it, I don't think that they should drop a Beta on us until it is essentially in the very final bug-fixing stage. The difficulty of extracting the constructive criticism of it from the mass of "I coulda done this on my lunch-hour" and "QUIT NOW" complaints would, IMO, be far more trouble than it would be worth.
Dons asbestos mankini
I couldn't do the Visualizer in the state it was in at PAX '08 in my lunch-hour. I couldn't have done it in six months of dev time with another coder helping me.
Yours,
Dave the Brave
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4 years ago ::
May 07, 2009 - 12:54PM
#383
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I would add something to that. If all you want is the VTT, then don't subscribe, and let WotC know (by letter) that you are not subscribing because the VTT isn't out yet.
The letter is a good point. LETTER.
Companies take notice to letters these days, because of the time and energy to actually do it.
Also, leave out insults and judgements.
You would not respond well to a friend that was giving you feedback with terms like idiot, incompetent, and liar, neither will the person at WOTC that gets the letter. Just because someone works for a corporation, doesn't mean they stop being a person.
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4 years ago ::
May 07, 2009 - 1:26PM
#384
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Date Joined:
Aug 17, 2007
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If you like what they currently offer and want the VTT, it's not hurting you to subscribe. The promise not to raise the rate when more tools come out is something you might come to appreciate later. They might also at some point reward players who have had long term subscriptions with free stuff.
Understood.
Some of your points are pet peaves of mine with companies these days. We will just leave it as that :D
WOTC Podcast:
"The web is a shortcut"
"Piracy was a big thing"
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4 years ago ::
May 07, 2009 - 2:01PM
#385
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Understood.
Some of your points are pet peaves of mine with companies these days. We will just leave it as that :D
Hey, I'll admit I'm dissappointed that the VTT isn't coming out. I'm sure many factors went to that happening.
Bemoaning them to death isn't going to change things. Insultes won't get my point across. Threats are often empty.
So I just take it all in stride.
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4 years ago ::
May 23, 2009 - 11:42AM
#386
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Date Joined:
Aug 27, 2008
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I am in a group of 20 gamers who have been waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting ... for the "Coming Soon" (now removed from site) Character Visualizer, Dungeon Builder, and Gaming Table--the whole suite. Only two of us have subscribed, and that's just to keep up with the developments. We are geographically separated, and the rest are not going to subscribe just to pay monthly fees for no services rendered. And if the promised programs are not done by the time my subscription runs out, then I'll be moving on to something else, with nothing but a strong distrust of anything Wizards has to say in the future.
Yes, the company is there to make money--I've got no problem with that. But if they want their guarantee of subscribers before deciding to complete the products, they are confusing customers with investors. We are not there to fund projects, we're there to buy products. Put up, or cut and run, but let us know one way or the other.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 24, 2009 - 10:24AM
#387
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Date Joined:
Aug 19, 2007
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I have today cancelled my subscription. I was hoping that the gaming table would be available for use by this time. The character builder is very nice, however not worth the subscription by itself.
I was really hoping to connect with some friends that our group is geographically separated from. When and if they ever get the VTT going, I'll be back, unless I've found a different product that performs well by then.
I've been playing D&D for 22 years, and sincerely hope they can get this right.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 24, 2009 - 3:13PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 22, 2007
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I'm sorry to hear about your disapointment in the lack of the game table, Tarn, and of course it's sad to see people stop using DDI. But the reality is if you're not getting what you want from it, you definitely shouldn't be expected to stick with it. Hopefullly you'll see something in the future that will reinvigorate your interest, but until then I hope you do find something that can help you play with your distant friends.
As a side note, I'm closing this thread down. It was started in February as basic feedback. Since then we've had a few announcements about the game table and visualizer and several newer threads about the disapointment in those announcements. In the future, posting in those threads or starting a new conversation are better avenues than reviving older threads such as this.
Trevor Kidd
Community Manager
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