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4 years ago  ::  Mar 10, 2009 - 9:49PM #361
Kyros_Tachyus
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Date Joined: Jan 15, 2008
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*twiddles thumbs*

We're waiting guys...
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 28, 2009 - 4:53PM #362
whitebaron
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Bill Slavicek]We will stay in touch, just not on a weekly basis. [...]
Digital Insider is ending, but the conversation is just beginning.


I guess I am not the only one who can say now: "That was either a lie, or they overpromised again." Or everyone who wanted to stay in touch just fell in a wrote:

We will stay in touch, just not on a weekly basis. [...]
Digital Insider is ending, but the conversation is just beginning.[/quote]
I guess I am not the only one who can say now: "That was either a lie, or they overpromised again." Or everyone who wanted to stay in touch just fell in a coma...

Here be dragons:

May 25, 2012 -- 10:10PM, Dranack wrote:

Sadly, I don't think this has anything to do with wanting Next to be a great game.
It has to do with wanting Next to determine who won the Edition War.
[...]
For those of us who just want D&D Next to be a good game, this is getting to be a real drag.


Nov 17, 2010 -- 1:05PM, Jharii wrote:

I think I figured it out.  This program is a character builder, not a character builder.  It teaches patience, empathy, and tolerance.  All most excellent character traits.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 29, 2009 - 2:15AM #363
Cailte
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mudbunny wrote:

FOr a good explanation of why they did this, listen to the Panel Interview/Q&A session that was held at GenghisCon. I *think* that the relevant portion is in part 2, but may be wrong.

Part 1
Part 2


Thanks MB.

I quoted the relevant section into its own thread: here

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4 years ago  ::  May 06, 2009 - 11:00PM #364
turtle509
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what is the e.t.a. on the game table? i keep waiting for it to come out and it hasn't shown up yet. i subscribed to insider just for it so i dont have to carry my books with me all the time.
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4 years ago  ::  May 06, 2009 - 11:03PM #365
davethebrave371
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turtle509 wrote:

what is the e.t.a. on the game table? i keep waiting for it to come out and it hasn't shown up yet. i subscribed to insider just for it so i dont have to carry my books with me all the time.


ETA When It's Done, Duke Nukem Forever style.

I have a feeling it'll be 2010 sometime, given recent layoffs and omissions of the Game Table, Dungeon Builder and Visualizer from the DDI website entirely.

Yours,
Dave the Brave
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4 years ago  ::  May 07, 2009 - 12:40AM #366
ahelmer
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davethebrave371 wrote:

ETA When It's Done, Duke Nukem Forever style.

I have a feeling it'll be 2010 sometime, given recent layoffs and omissions of the Game Table, Dungeon Builder and Visualizer from the DDI website entirely.


I agree 100%.. Duke Nukem is'nt really being worked on either. I'm sure they'll get back to it some day....

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58519

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4 years ago  ::  May 07, 2009 - 1:38AM #367
Shemeska_the_Marauder
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davethebrave371 wrote:

ETA When It's Done, Duke Nukem Forever style.

I have a feeling it'll be 2010 sometime, given recent layoffs and omissions of the Game Table, Dungeon Builder and Visualizer from the DDI website entirely.


As I understand it, they've had more people leave (unannounced) since the last round of announced layoffs.

Shemeska the Marauder, Freelancer 5 / Yugoloth 10
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4 years ago  ::  May 07, 2009 - 6:10AM #368
rjdafoe
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ahelmer wrote:

I agree 100%.. Duke Nukem is'nt really being worked on either. I'm sure they'll get back to it some day....

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58519


Duke Nukem is officially dead, the company (I believe 3D Realms) is no longer in business as reported today on Slashdot.

WOTC Podcast:
"The web is a shortcut"
"Piracy was a big thing"
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4 years ago  ::  May 07, 2009 - 6:30AM #369
Dane_McArdy
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Cailte wrote:

Thanks MB.

I quoted the relevant section into its own thread: here


You know what I find most interesting, this comment:

[INDENT]GK: Now speaking as an ex-Wizard's emplyee I can also tell you that you vote with your pocket book. Money does talk in that company. Ahm if you are a big fan of Forgotten Realms, buy the Forgotten Realms product. That's the best way to ensure that the campaign setting beomes healthy. If you want to see the additional tools, subscribe, enjoy what you can right now, but if no one were to subscribe... I mean its doing well but... if no one were to subscribe to the character builder and DDI right now it wouldn't be getting future resources for the "some day I'll subscribe". Money matters to the company, vote with your pocket book. It feels so good to say things like that [/INDENT]

We often think speaking with our pocketbook speaks. It does, but not always the way we think. If no one subscribes to DDi, because of the lack of the VTT, probably the whole digital department would get shut down.

When companies have multiple products, those that do well, get the most attention and money. Why? Because that's what people are buying. Companies will allways invest in those areas that...wait for it...make them more money!

Now, I'm not saying you should get a DDi subscription just to keep it afloat. But if you are interested in it, would 5-8 dollars a month hurt you? Those who answer yes, I understand, and with NO snideness intended it sounds like there are outside of DnD issues you might want to address.

If you are into these games, you are willing to spend money on non-essential items for your entertainment. So I can't see the cost being crippling. So getting a subscription, even if you only want the VTT, helps them do the following.

Hire more people back/new. More people working on the digital side of things means tools come out faster. Tools coming out faster means you get closer to getting a VTT.

I know, it sounds like, we have to pay them to MAKE the dam thing? Well, yes. Entertainment companies make new product from the money they get from people like me and you.

And who knows, maybe you will find value in what you are getting now. I certainly know the Character Builder is pretty awesome. It really is. I love that all the power cards come out with all the static math figured out for you. I mean static as stuff like combat advantage and similar bonus aren't figured in.

If you really aren't happy there is no VTT, and won't give them an extra penny until it's ready, I understand. Your angry and upset.

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4 years ago  ::  May 07, 2009 - 7:24AM #370
Aberzanzorax
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Either they are or aren't going to do it.


I don't think they deserve charity.
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