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Dane_McArdy wrote:

I see the kids/work reason posted lots of time.

Outside of having to travel to a friends house, how is the VTT going to make more time that you already don't have? How is the VTT going deal with your work or kids?

It's not.

Having, like many people here, played MMO's it's pretty common on what it's like playing with someone that has kids. It's they are AFK to much, dealing with their kids.

I can only imagine that will get worse with the VTT, because it's not like a computer run monster which is going to attack whether you are at the keyboard or not.

Well I'm glad you seem to know exactly how things go at my house. Not sure how you handle your kids, but mine are in bed by 8pm. The pick up games at the LGS start around 6pm. 6-8pm is prime after dinner play with the kids & housework time. It would be nice to have been able to pick up VTT games after 9-10pm.

Dane_McArdy wrote:

And as for the VTT being your best chance to play 4E without finding another group. Bull, because there are plenty of options for online game tables and such. You aren't without options to play 4E online without having to find a group.

What I will accept is that the VTT looked really cool and seemed like it would be the best one out there! I'm disappointed, because it looked like having the ability to really make the game come alive visually.

As I said before, I'm aware of this argument and you answered it nicely with your follow up sentence.

Please understand as I have said before my main issue is not with how W0TC handled things.

Dane_McArdy wrote:

But I haven't translated my disappointment into false accusations at a company, in a childish fit.

It's with statements like this one.

I haven't once said W0TC were liars or accused them of false advertising.

It is quite clear that for some people, the problems that WotC has had getting the Digital tools that were originally announced for DDI programmed and out of the door is a big reason for their disappointment with DDI, 4E and WotC. For other people, they look at the problems as no big deal, and are content with the way that WotC has proceeded with the rollout of DDI tools and their plan going forward.

Those points of view, in and of themselves, is not the problem. Not for me, not for CM, nor for WotC. They knew that changing the manner of tool rollout would anger some people, but they made the decision that, in the long run, the change was a better fit for their abilities. Discussion of this is (usually) friendly and good-natured.

Problems arise when people claim a moral high ground and state that all other opinions are invalid or false. That their interpretation of how things are (or should be) is the one true way to look at things. No good ever comes of framing a discussion in those terms. Unfortunately, some of the recent posts in this thread are starting to veer towards that type of "discussion".[1]

This forum very rarely (as compared to other forums) sees the presence of ORCs, and I would really, really like to keep it that way. So please keep all discussion polite.

[1]And no, I don't care who started it. It doesn't work with my kids, it won't work here.

gabe1k if you get PM's like that, just take a screen shot and report it to the [s]WizO's ORC's (with the screen shot included). Posting it and responding does little good.