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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 9:56AM
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So last week we announced that we were working on a set of Campaign Tools with the intention of helping players manage and run their ongoing games and campaigns. These tools will focus on encounters, monsters, mapping and adventures. Previously, we focused all of our energies and effort into making the Character Builder the best tool it could be. We're going to continue that focused effort as we move forward - we're just shifting our attention to the Campaign Tools. This means that we're not actively working on any other unreleased tools, which includes the game table and the character visualizer. Once we have the Campaign Tools out and we're as happy with them as we are with the Character Builder, we'll have a better idea of what our next step is. As far as more details about the Campaign Tools, I don't have any more information for you now, but we should have some details for you soon.
Trevor Kidd
D&D Community Manager
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:01AM
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*cheers*
And to think I was just posting a whine about total silence on any upcoming tools.
Here's to looking forward to the upcoming details.
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:04AM
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hopefully, they'll give out a concept for what their campaign tools should contain - since everyone on these boards here believe them to be something slightly different, which is a good and a bad sign. good, since lots of people are interested - bad, since most of them will be disappointed if they don't clear out the waters what exactly "campaign tools" are.
This new forum is terrible. Try again Wizards.
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:09AM
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Thank you very much. That's what I figured the survey results meant, so I suppose it's nice to be right. It's a shame that the other tools were set aside for the time being, but a) it sounds like WotC felt it was the right business decision, and b) it's nice to have a conclusive statement. Thanks.
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:12AM
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- Stampeding Hybrid
- Dragon Slayer
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I noticed that mapping is listed as one of the features for the Campign Tools, does this mean that it(assuming it is a single program) will absorb the previously planned tool for map making(I forgot what the official planned name was).
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:13AM
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I noticed that mapping is listed as one of the features for the Campign Tools, does this mean that it(assuming it is a single program) will absorb the previously planned tool for map making(I forgot what the official planned name was).
Dungeon Builder
Mudbunny
SVCL for DDI
This new community site is in Beta, pardon our dust and be patient as new functionality is added over time
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:24AM
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This means that we're not actively working on any other unreleased tools, which includes the game table and the character visualizer. Once we have the Campaign Tools out and we're as happy with them as we are with the Character Builder, we'll have a better idea of what our next step is.
So its official the original tools that many of us have looked forward to are dead (at least for now and imop probably for good).
Thats it for me for 4E, I'm going back to 3.5 until Wotc can provide me with what was originally promised. I want the visualizer, dungeon builder and virtual table top we were promised, not a bait and switch!
First they pull pdfs now this, well I'm pulling my money and I hope many others do also; it seems to be all Wotc / Hasbro understands.
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:29AM
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So its official the original tools that many of us have looked forward to are dead (at least for now and imop probably for good).
Thats it for me for 4E, I'm going back to 3.5 until Wotc can provide me with what was originally promised. I want the visualizer, dungeon builder and virtual table top we were promised, not a bait and switch!
First they pull pdfs now this, well I'm pulling my money and I hope many others do also; it seems to be all Wotc / Hasbro understands.
It isn't bait and switch BTW, its called changing their minds. Not that that will change yours. Frankly, I dont care what you play, just clarifying the language here.
And, for the record, i didn't want the VTT or the visual, you just have to realize you don't always get your way. Some of us are going to be happy and some of us aren't. I don't really understand how this affects your ability to play 4e however. But, different strokes and all that.
PS Thank you wotc for moving the VTT and visualizer to the back burner in favor of a robust set of campaign tools for the hardworking DMs out there.
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:40AM
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Ughhh....
While it is nice that you have said now that you are working on something, why don't you guys just go ahead and announce the cancelation of the other applications at this point? Stop dangling the carrot that some want.
Really, what is the point of not? You can even spin it in your favor by saying that the community did not appear to want those applications so that you are focusing on what they really want.
While this is not surprising, something tells me all is not right in the DDI world.
I would also like to say thanks for a CLEAR update of what is going on. Now let's get some dialog going about what Wizards see the Campaign manager as and what the fans think and go from there.
It would also be nice to get a monthly update: like, we are working of the Campaign Manager - this is a feature we are testing, this is a feature that we are talking about, etc.
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10 months ago ::
Apr 24, 2009 - 10:45AM
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Dungeon Builder
Thank you, I do not know why I could not remember that.
So its official the original tools that many of us have looked forward to are dead (at least for now and imop probably for good).
Thats it for me for 4E, I'm going back to 3.5 until Wotc can provide me with what was originally promised. I want the visualizer, dungeon builder and virtual table top we were promised, not a bait and switch!
First they pull pdfs now this, well I'm pulling my money and I hope many others do also; it seems to be all Wotc / Hasbro understands.
How does the lack of these tools make a difference between you playing 4th edition and 3.5? Does it have a visualizer, dungeon builder, and virtual table top? Does WotC really care which version you are playing if you aren't buying new products? I mean if you prefer 3.5 to 4th then that is completely fine, but I wonder why you would play 4th if that is the case. However if you prefer 4th, then don't switch to a system you like less over this just stop buying new stuff so you can make your statement(although I personally doubt it will be enough for WotC to notice).
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