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Feedback Thread: Digital Insider #7
2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 9:50AM #1
WotC_Bart
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Hi folks,

Setting this feedback thread in advance for Randy's Digital Insider #7, due to go live later today.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 10:26AM #2
Rhen
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It's nice to have some good, solid answers to questions that have been going 'round the forums.

Thanks! :-)
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 11:31AM #3
Kyros_Tachyus
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After we launch our D&DI subscription service, the Character Builder will become our #1 priority. First up will be a public Beta test, then a commercial release, and then our development efforts will move onto the Character Visualizer. The way the Beta will work is that we will first make the application available to a select group of special testers (including folks who signed up to be Beta testers at D&D Experience) and then we will make it available to the general public. Everyone who wants to will get the chance to participate for free.


I thought they already said it was top priority. It hasn't been top priority?

The Beta version of the Character Builder will have full functionality, but it will only have rules content that covers level 1-3 characters. The same thing will be true of the free demo version of the Character Builder which will be available for folks to sample after the full version goes on sale: it will have everything you need to build a level 1, 2, or 3 character. We have not yet announced a release date for the full version of the Character Builder.


Cool news. But when will the BETA be availiable? How can we sign up? I don't intend to buy the subscription to DDi at all, I don't know what makes them think it is worth $7.95 a month but w/e thats up to them. They won't be getting my money until they release the full package. Not worth it at all.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 11:56AM #4
Zaukrie
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Great update, as usual, since these started. i'll be buying at $4.95 a month...
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 12:13PM #5
Ranadiel
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The article doesn't address my biggest concern which is wha will happen if you buy the year long web content pack and then you decide you want to upgrade to the client pack when that pricing scheme becomes available.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 12:40PM #6
Paulon
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I'll be polite, and say that it's a bad idea to charge right now, for several reasons:

1) The promised Barbarian playtest, which got pushed back without explanation. This is going to be taken as Bait and Switch.
2) The apparent inability of WotC to release timely content for Dungeon and Dragon.

Between what's going to be interpreted as dishonesty, and what looks to me like borderline incompetence, how in God's name do you expect a lot of the wavering customers to be willing to pay right now? At least release the promised articles and demonstrate one month's ability to produce what the customers are paying for without problems first.
First thing for people working on providing new features should remember:

People hate change for the sake of change. They usually don't mind genuine improvements, but change just because it's change and therefore cool tends to get hackles raised.

Second thing for people working on providing new 'improved' features should remember:

It shouldn't be hard for users to figure out how to turn them off if they don't like them. Just because the programmer thinks he's had a great idea doesn't mean everyone else is going to agree with them.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 12:53PM #7
Kryptonian_Scion
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Randy Buehler]We probably will not be done testing our Ecommerce and Entitlements system in time to launch by October 1st, so you’ wrote:

We probably will not be done testing our Ecommerce and Entitlements system in time to launch by October 1st, so you’ll probably get a couple of extra articles for free as we continue to publish three times per week, but here’s the short version:


How do you "continue" something you have not done in two weeks, sir?

Editorials are not content.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 1:17PM #8
Fox_Reeveheart
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Paulon wrote:

I'll be polite, and say that it's a bad idea to charge right now, for several reasons:

1) The promised Barbarian playtest, which got pushed back without explanation. This is going to be taken as Bait and Switch.
2) The apparent inability of WotC to release timely content for Dungeon and Dragon.

Between what's going to be interpreted as dishonesty, and what looks to me like borderline incompetence, how in God's name do you expect a lot of the wavering customers to be willing to pay right now? At least release the promised articles and demonstrate one month's ability to produce what the customers are paying for without problems first.


I have to agree on the barbarian playtest article. Everyone is eagerly awaiting for this thing to be released in september after us seeing it in the original table of contents and from that gencon video of the article being made available in september. I will be taking this as a bait and switch to get us excited and to grab hold of a subscription.

But some of the wording said "Last free FULL month" so i'm wondering how to take this.

Either way if we have to pay for the playtest now I said I will make a thread on it and write to them a complaint. It will be really shameful of them to pull such stupid and dishonest crap. I don't care what explaination they give me. So it wasn't ready for september so you just decided to put it into paying october? RIIIIIIGHT. Again it's all about money. I will be kind and hold my tongue on others things I would say that may have been less than kind to say which I had to delete of lot of this post because of it.

Edit: Also says something about a few more free articles... lets just hope it's something thats worthwhile and not just as the above poster said an editorial. If the barbarian playtest is among those you will at least renew a little faith for me. Show me you're listening to us.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 1:19PM #9
Mock
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Hm. I won't be buying in. I think it's very unwise to start the subscription service before even one of the long-awaited D&DI tools is available. The magazines alone (especially with the haphazard release stuff, delays, and so forth) are not worth the subscription cost. The D&DI tools might be, if they were ready.

I'll scavenge what I can for free, and check back in a few months.
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2008 - 1:36PM #10
Kentinal
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Ranadiel wrote:

The article doesn't address my biggest concern which is wha will happen if you buy the year long web content pack and then you decide you want to upgrade to the client pack when that pricing scheme becomes available.


This was answered.

If you pay for a year now and full package goes live before then, you will be credited with unused potion to the cost of the full package.

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