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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 8:12PM #51
eslathagos
Date Joined: Jul 2, 2007
Posts: 8
I seem to be having a problem. I have red x's in the place of some pictures. I am assuming that they are the pictures that denote basic attacks and such. Is this a compendium problem, or is this somethign with my browser? If it is a problem on my end, any ideas as to how I can fix this? Thanks bunches!!

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 8:17PM #52
JohnLynch
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2008
Posts: 2,963
Crossposting so that any WiZo who only reads this thread see's my opinions.

This is a wonderful update from when it first launched. The View All button and the select items by level make a HUGE difference in the usefulness of this application. Especially when deciding what magical items to hand out to my players.

Also by having the monsters I'm saved a crapload of work. No longer do I need to search through the articles for monsters of an appropriate level, or cross reference the index in the MM as well as my own personal list. And finally by having the compendium I can copy and paste the data into a file and then print the file, giving me a hardcopy reference.

The_Jester wrote:

1) I still cannot find the fighter power "Get Over Here" in a search.
It's in there. It comes up in a generalized search for "fighter" but not in a search for the exact power. Even if it type it capitalized, lower case, just "get", etc.


Works for me.

The_Jester wrote:

2) Still no warforged despite being published for two months


Its there now.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 8:53PM #53
kave99
Date Joined: Jul 23, 2006
Posts: 334
so did i miss something, are we going to see the monsters from the MM or is that not going to happen?
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 9:18PM #54
JohnLynch
Date Joined: Mar 26, 2008
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kave99 wrote:

so did i miss something, are we going to see the monsters from the MM or is that not going to happen?


Eventually we will. Monsters as a whole are a new feature that wasn't in the original launch of the Compendium.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 9:39PM #55
AsmodeusLore
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Date Joined: Aug 24, 2005
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WotC_Cort wrote:

I think the inclusion of Dragon/Dungeon/Scenario pack material is one of the coolest features of the Compendium. It's one stop shopping for everything from everywhere without digging through stacks of materials and trying to convince your DM you're not having a self-serving hallucination when you tell them about a power you want.

We've always talked about it, but this release is the first one where we're really starting to see it in action.


Agreed. That is definitely one of the most attractive features of the Compendium. But the turn-around time has got to improve. Ideally, it should be added to the compendium before it gets published in hard-cover books and compiled PDFs. I believe it was mentioned that this is how Errata is supposed to work. It goes to the Compendium before it gets published elsewhere. If you can manage that, it would add a lot of value to the Compendium, turning it into the most up-to-date authority on rules.

WotC_Cort wrote:

I do think the pages display is the way to go for most users; what you are talking about is almost more an export feature that lets you get the full dataset so you can do something with it offline.

Offering that might be a bit counter-productive to what we're trying to do with the Compendium but I can bounce the idea around internally and see what people's thoughts are.


This makes me wonder what are you trying to do with the Compendium? I don't expect anyone official to come out and say it this plainly, but right now, I'm assuming you are worried that if you supply some sort of offline dataset, that it will be distributed through questionable channels, and then people won't be paying for it. If thats a true concern, then I'd suggest making only the core books into a downloadable database. Keep the extra material in an online-only format. It seems that the economics of 'free' are so poorly understood at a time when they are becoming so important in our lives... but thats a whole rant waiting to happen.

Zaukrie wrote:

Please add more links between information, as many others have already pointed out. Thank you.


Yes, please! This would be a huge benefit. Ease of Navigation is a major concern for any reference. This is one of the reasons why d20srd.org is such a popular site.

I'll close with one last suggestion. This doesn't relate directly to the Compendium, but since I seem to have your attention, I'm going to get as much mileage as I can off of it. You've got an entire community picking part everything you publish. You are getting instant feedback. That is a benefit that I think you need to capitalize on. You've got to be more responsive to correcting mistakes that are pointed out. Look at the Rescue at Rivenroar pdf. It was littered with mistakes, that were quickly (and loudly) pointed out. But even now, the pdf has those same mistakes in it. Its missing elements, there are typos, and labels are missing or incorrect. All of these should have been corrected as they were discovered and reported by the community.

I'm guessing that there are time-restraints that are keeping this from happening. It can't be a technical challenge, can it?. I'd suggest you have your people like WolfStar and mudbunny, who are already omni-present on the forums, gather this information, organize and present it to your editors in a fashion that keeps them from having to waste a lot of time by trolling the forums for the information.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 10:42PM #56
Haldrik
Date Joined: Jan 2, 2004
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This thread called my attention to the ability to search by level. That is an incredibly useful tool.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 10:49PM #57
Haldrik
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Asm: You've got an entire community picking part everything you publish. You are getting instant feedback. That is a benefit that I think you need to capitalize on. You've got to be more responsive to correcting mistakes that are pointed out.


Along the lines of Asm, why not outsource the job of errata to forum viewers who would be happy to volunteer to do it for free.

Put a "wiki" version of whatever needs proofing online in the forums. Whoever notices an error can correct it immediately. After a while, when the doc looks pretty cleaned up, have WotC staff editor review it, to make sure it all looks in order, and use it as the basis for future publications. Likewise this digital version can be easily entered into the Compendium.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 11:57PM #58
Sothicus
Date Joined: Mar 20, 2001
Posts: 56
Since the Compendium first came out, something which is still in is the lack of relevence.

For example, typing in "wizard" gives two results in the Race tab, Eladrin and Human.

However, there is very little relevance to these races and wizards.

It would be nice if there was a "smart" compendium which didn't simply look up every instance of a term.

Barring that, at least highlighting the word(s) searched for would be nice to simplify looking for the text. As it is, I get the full output of the Human race page and the ONE instance of the word "wizard" is buried in the text.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 14, 2008 - 5:57AM #59
steppen
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2005
Posts: 23
I think the Advanced Search under the Monster tab is messed up.

If try to set the "Group Role" filter, you have options for Solo, Minion, Elite, and "Normal". I think this should be "Standard", because if you select "Normal" and do the search, you get no results. If you search for "All", you see many monsters that are "Standard".
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 14, 2008 - 6:38AM #60
Domenic
Date Joined: Aug 20, 2006
Posts: 136
This is looking much better.

Specifics:

Feather boat is still "feather boat +3". This is a widespread problem with items getting pluses that they don't have.

The formatting is pretty bad... it could use some cleanup. Especially egregious are the lists (just use HTML
    elements! With some custom styling if you must, but this pathetic plus spaces is just silly) and the tables (the markup here is pretty good---missing
s instead of s for the headings---but the CSS is terrible).

The warforged entry has lots of random line breaks. Not quite sure what the deal is there.

Speaking of line breaks, it'd be great if you guys were up for just using normal

tags, instead of multiple
s. Since you are, y'know, delimiting paragraphs. This copies into other programs much better.

Also, the space between the power headers and the flavor text is really large.

Paragon paths need their powers integrated into their entries.

Epic destinies have headings inside their entries that are right now just undifferentiated text blocks. (It'd be great if you could use actual HTML

etc. tags, with CSS, for headings, but I'm not holding my breath...)

Skills need to stop displaying one search result per class.

Feats still have "PreRequisite"---pretty unprofessional.

"Any Large Melee" under item is kinda weird, when what you're really saying is "Improvised Large melee"

Formatting on "Enemies Abound" is messed up, missing some spacing and linebreaks.

Hope this is helpful!

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