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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 11:09AM #31
mvincent
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2004
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"What I would like" feedback:
All I really want are hypertext core rules (i.e. something exactly like www.d20srd.org).
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 11:11AM #32
mudbunny
Date Joined: Sep 28, 2006
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AsmodeusLore wrote:

One way in which D&D is different from MMOs, at least in my experience, is that our player-base is not that immature. The problem is that one such immature player could ruin it for the rest of us.


Are you new to this whole internet thing??

(I kid, I kid)

Seriously, I would like to think that the D&D playerbase is more mature than the MMO playerbase. However, my experience in the 4E C&C forum, as well as the 4E General Discussion form and D&D Community Business and D&D GSL leads me to believe otherwise.

Mudbunny
SVCL for DDI

Before you post, think of the Monkeysphere

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 12:13PM #33
Lanu2000
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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One thing that would be helpful (for both the compendium and the encounter builder bonus tool) would be to select level ranges.

If I was designing an encounter in the sewers for 4th level PCs, I may want to see all the goblins and rats between say, 2nd and 6th level. Selecting a range will show me that along with the goblins and rats, I could throw an Ochre Jelly into the fray too.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 12:21PM #34
WotC_Cort
Date Joined: Sep 4, 2007
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Lanu2000 wrote:

One thing that would be helpful (for both the compendium and the encounter builder bonus tool) would be to select level ranges.

If I was designing an encounter in the sewers for 4th level PCs, I may want to see all the goblins and rats between say, 2nd and 6th level. Selecting a range will show me that along with the goblins and rats, I could throw an Ochre Jelly into the fray too.


I can't speak for the Encounter Builder, but take a peak at the Compendium once it comes back up from the update. You might be pleasantly surprised.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 12:26PM #35
hellmute
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2008
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View all does not view all. It displays X pages of Y number of items.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 12:50PM #36
Lanu2000
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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Since the Compendium still points to the "Under Construction" page for me I can forgive them errors at the moment. But using the direct URL works for me...

Oh, I just realized what you mean. You want 'View All' to show all the powers (for instance) on one page, WotC thinks 'View All' shows all powers without filtering but still split between multiple pages. Got it.

WotC_Cort: I see where you can select one level, but not a range. Again see the first sentence of this post if there is a range, but selecting each level one at a time is less than ideal.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 4:46PM #37
hellmute
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2008
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Yeah. It is like some phone company saying you get unlimited service for limited times during the day.

unlimited =//= limited

You would think the English language was easy to understand, but I guess not.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 5:24PM #38
WotC_Cort
Date Joined: Sep 4, 2007
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hellmute wrote:

View all does not view all. It displays X pages of Y number of items.


It displays everything for that category, so all of "items" if you click it with the items tab open, all of "monsters" if you click it with the monster tab open and so forth.

And yeah, it's a paged view. Otherwise things like 780 powers becomes a bit... unwieldy.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 5:29PM #39
WotC_Cort
Date Joined: Sep 4, 2007
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Lanu2000 wrote:

Since the Compendium still points to the "Under Construction" page for me I can forgive them errors at the moment. But using the direct URL works for me...

Oh, I just realized what you mean. You want 'View All' to show all the powers (for instance) on one page, WotC thinks 'View All' shows all powers without filtering but still split between multiple pages. Got it.

WotC_Cort: I see where you can select one level, but not a range. Again see the first sentence of this post if there is a range, but selecting each level one at a time is less than ideal.


Yeah, we're aware of the desire to select a range. It adds complexity to the development, so we went with the current advanced search options as a good set we felt we could build and test solidly given our time frame.

If we have a clamor that being able to select ranges instead of individual levels is a strongly desired feature we will certainly take that feedback into account when planning the next set of features.

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5 years ago  ::  Aug 13, 2008 - 5:49PM #40
hellmute
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2008
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WotC_Cort wrote:

It displays everything for that category, so all of "items" if you click it with the items tab open, all of "monsters" if you click it with the monster tab open and so forth.

And yeah, it's a paged view. Otherwise things like 780 powers becomes a bit... unwieldy.


It really seems the sort function is quite sound, so the optin for those interested in viewing all 788 powers should be able to do so easily since it is client side.

A simple disclaimer about load times when viewing all is all it really needs.

No offense to your search tool, but I just like a good old fashion list sometimes.

Like the Master List for DDM 1.0 and 2.0

I can open the resulting page with a spreadsheet and sort it out or do many other things with it. Count the number of monsters that are kobold variants to populate a city with usable combatants with a few well placed macros and my own criterion for inclusion to build my own encounter or city from the list.

Or find all items with necrotic damage for warlocks AND warlock monsters at the same time.

Something I am sure may later come about from the search function, but would take about 3 minutes in a spreadsheet with all compendium elements in it.

Also serves as a good offline use for having a list to find some item someone may walk into a game with that they made up themselves where no internet access is available but the laptop has the list saved form the last time a search was made when the Compendium was updated.

I understand the page would quickly be a fearful thing for those who are not accustomed to scrolling, but I am not one of those. :D

Heck just a single page list of ALL parts of the database with which tab they come from would be just as well without links as people would know what is an is not.

Kind of like the old Arms & Equipment guides' massive amount of tables of "stuff".

It does work as is, but I know the database could handle it and am sure the sort script can also handle it even if it might scare a few people.

Just think. If this is the only thing I, ME, am complaining about with the Compendium...well ask other people about how I complain about things, and so far you can see I have minimal problems with the Compendium as is.

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