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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 3:41PM
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you don't need to really sign up to get the information:
this is everything they have over there.
and its a good value, even at the per month rate a days lunch is more expensive.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 3:44PM
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No, they shouldn't, but not everyone manages to read every single thing. I believe I said that. Why yes, yes I did say that.
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so your argument is dumb people should not buy things? not saying your dumb but that does appear to be what you are arguing.
if a person cannot be bothered to read the paragraph about what they are buying that is on the page they buy it that's the buyers fault.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 4:12PM
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and its a good value, even at the per month rate a days lunch is more expensive.
if it was on paper, i'd probably tell you it's to cheap. but for an e-mag, it's hard on the upper boundary.
btw: comparing to lunch, ultimately says nothing about whether you can or should buy that package or not. if i bought anything that costs but 5 bucks a month, i would be pretty poor. (maybe very happy too, but definitely broke)
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 5:46PM
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I think WOTC needs to do is make it clear that if you subscribe now, will this price be the same as they roll out more of the tools to us or will they have to "upgrade" there subscriptions to get the new content. Not betas, but full versions.
This needs to be made clear on the page where you subscribe, and if you need to upgrade, the price of the upgrade. This should have been ironed out before they offered the subscriptions.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 6:09PM
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Why does everyone go by the 4.95 price as the baseline for how much this subscription costs?
Its $8 for 1 month. Not $5. I don't know why people claim $5, but from where I'm from you look at the monthly fee and tell people that, then say that it costs $60 for a year. That way it IS $5 per month.
$8 per month. $8.
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$8.
That's always bugged me. Sorry, it just has. Just wanted to toss that out there in the "useless banter" bin.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 7:32PM
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so your argument is dumb people should not buy things? not saying your dumb but that does appear to be what you are arguing.
Huh? No, that's not what I'm arguing. Where'd you get that from?
What I did was agree that people ought to be reading the particulars of what they're buying, but since there seems to be so much confusion about it, thanks in part to WotC's general lack of specific communication over the past year, WotC might be better off adding a blurb about the high profile apps arriving later and not being part of this web-content subscription.
I never said dumb people shouldn't buy things, and I'd be interested in hearing exactly what part of my posts gave you that impression. I think perhaps you've gotten me confused with someone else.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 8:12PM
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I'm not everybody, but that's what I go by because that's what it cost me. Why would I pay more than the cheapest rate? Especially when they've promised all access at that rate for the length of my subscription?
Why does everyone go by the 4.95 price as the baseline for how much this subscription costs?
Its $8 for 1 month. Not $5. I don't know why people claim $5, but from where I'm from you look at the monthly fee and tell people that, then say that it costs $60 for a year. That way it IS $5 per month.
$8 per month. $8.
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$8.
That's always bugged me. Sorry, it just has. Just wanted to toss that out there in the "useless banter" bin.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 8:30PM
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I'm not everybody, but that's what I go by because that's what it cost me. Why would I pay more than the cheapest rate? Especially when they've promised all access at that rate for the length of my subscription?
Yes and that's the discounted price the actual price is 8 dollars not 5 period if you pay yearly you get a discount. If you went to a store and saw Bread on the Isle with a price tag saying 4 dollars and he sign underneath that says 12 for 12 dollars you wouldn't say hey 1 dollar bread you'd say Why the hell are they trying to charge 4 dollars for bread.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 9:28PM
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Yes and that's the discounted price the actual price is 8 dollars not 5 period if you pay yearly you get a discount. If you went to a store and saw Bread on the Isle with a price tag saying 4 dollars and he sign underneath that says 12 for 12 dollars you wouldn't say hey 1 dollar bread you'd say Why the hell are they trying to charge 4 dollars for bread.
"It better be good bread!"
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5 years ago ::
Oct 15, 2008 - 10:48PM
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That is still ridiculous. You are buying something. Read what you are buying. It doesn't list the game table so why would you think you were buying it?
They have posted articles describing exactly what you are getting and what is being pushed back. They should not be required to remind you, just in case, that you are not buying everything in their catalog at the point of sale.
That would cause as much confusion as it solves.
Oh no I am quite sorry but it is very very much NOT ridiculous. WotC Advertised and Advertised a certain group of products as the central core of D&D Insider for months, in fact it has only been over the last month or two that there were ever any answers forthcoming that those products were so delayed that they couldn't even give a possible release date for them. It is perfectly logical that people buying the three core books and seeing the ads in them would come here expecting to see some spectacular set of tools with at the very least something that would handle character creation, do portraits and allow you to play online ready to go and ready to get a free ten day trial. The only people who know that to not be true are the people who read these forums. You tell me man, you explain to me how some new player who does not frequent these forums could possibly know that D&D Insider isn't up and ready to go by reading what is in the three Core Books. You explain to me how they could possibly know that their is no free ten day trial at this moment, that they cannot play online with friends, or access an application that is anything that even resembles the one pictured in the ad in the back of the Core Books? They can't. Period. Not unless they come here and read these forums and specifically read the D&D Insider section of these forums, and most new players probably won't even know these forums exist until they type the url in their web browser. I am starting to believe that D&D 4e and specifically D&D Insider = the Titanic, no one on the inside knew that it was a sinking ship until it hit the iceberg, but if anyone had been on the outside looking in they could have seen the danger clearly.
Charles
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