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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 9:32PM
#41
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Date Joined:
Jun 10, 2008
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I'd be willing to spend $8 for the current tools.
This seems tailored a bit more for those of us that play at a table and dont need all the virtual table and mini business.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 9:37PM
#42
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I like that they're providing a lower cost option, though the overall value is still questionable to me. I like the Dragon magazine, and Dungeon is nice but mostly for DMs. As a player, there's just a ton of content I feel like I shouldn't be reading in case my DM decides to use any of it. I suppose once they stop making worthless articles about how to port your 3.5E characters they'll have more room for decent content.
In terms of mid and full tier pricing, I'd love to see an option that included everything except the virtual game table. Actually, an option for players that left out the DM tools like the dungeon builder would be nice too, since not everyone DMs, and it feels like a waste to pay for features we won't use. Maybe leave out Dungeon magazine as well? Not sure about that last part.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 10:21PM
#43
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Date Joined:
Mar 31, 2008
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Our current plan is to start charging for subscriptions before we have the client applications ready. That means the initial Insider subscription package will include exactly those parts that are currently in free trial mode:
You mean you are going to charge for the free trial?????
Please give me your definition of the word "free".
The current version of the Dungeon Builder is mostly done, but it’s only truly useful if you have the Game Table so you can load up your dungeon and see it, 3D terrain tiles and all.
Why? Did you decide to discard all use for this for those people not wanting to use it in conjunction with Game Table? What happened to the non-subscriber version that would let you make tiles and print maps that has a better interface than the existing tile builder javascript mess?
The Character Builder and the Character Visualizer are our current priority when it comes to the suite of client applications. Each will be available for the public to try out at Gen Con
Meaningless to me. Still says to me that all contact with these items will be subjective views of those who are already just excited as they are at a con, but not a real chance for the people that would be most likely to use them, those that cannot travel thus the reason behind DDI and Game Table, to look at them at all.
Well it has been a year since first being mentioned, so by GenCon 2010 maybe the Game Table itself will preview at GenCon.
Yes the news is still lacking and doubt still remains, but I do commend you Randy, IF you keep the commitment to actually give weekly updates to the public via the website.
Also a very good choice to cut the price since but this is a bit confusing....
The price tag for this subscription is as low as $4.95 per month, depending on how many months you are willing to sign up for. Specifically:
Web-Content Only Subscription Package:
12 Months = $59.40 ($4.95 per month)
3 Months = $19.95 ($6.65 per month)
1 Month = $7.95 ($7.95 per month)
We aren’t ready to discuss our medium or long-term pricing plans, but this is what the short-term looks like. It seems the long-term pricing model is you $5 per month with a yearly subscription. Have you made up some industry terminology that you do not wish to define for the public as most subscription services now only give you 1 year as the longer term, unless they force you into a multiple year plan like some cell phone providers. Others only offer month-month pricing plans and refuse to accept payment for or otherwise think beyond the monthly subscription rate. So what are you considering medium and long term? Do you have some kind of lifetime subscription plan in the works or something? Maybe some group rate for established gaming groups rather than the single user plans listed above? Look forward to next week when hopefully answers to some questions presented here and in past threads on the forum can be looked at in further depth with the closest to be released products, and a few things from this "press release" can be clarified. 
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 10:34PM
#44
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Date Joined:
Mar 31, 2008
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The reduced pricing is a good move. I'm willing to pay $8 a month for Dragon and Dungeon I think...
$4.95 a month for them sounds even better however the new pricing structure raises the question: If you pay for a year up front what will happen if the price goes up at some point during the year?
By law they should not be allowed to charge you more. They may be able to cancel your subscription and issue you a refund for the remaining prorated months. I think if they did cancel because you refuse to pay extra when your contract specified a set payment amount then they would HAVE TO issue you a refund.
Otherwise after the initial year they can change the price for the next year, likewise each month they could change the price, but when you pay a fixed price, it must be honored for the lifetime of the contract or the lifetime of the product. You cannot be forced to pay extra for something you already paid for.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 10:36PM
#45
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Date Joined:
Mar 31, 2008
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This is the pricing for the "web-content only" subscription, which we saw a fair number of people request. Future pricing hasn't yet been announced.
Please define "web content only". 
Is there some portion of DDI that will not be online and you must somehow pay some subscription fee for it? Will DDI have some physical product?
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 10:36PM
#46
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Date Joined:
Jul 14, 2008
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Their is no pleasing some of you people. At this point im convinced WoTC can make DDI free and pay you 10 bucks a month to sue it and you will still find somthing to ***** about.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 10:44PM
#47
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Date Joined:
Mar 31, 2008
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Their is no pleasing some of you people. At this point im convinced WoTC can make DDI free and pay you 10 bucks a month to sue it and you will still find somthing to ***** about.
It is just that so little information has been given in the past, that since much has changed all we now has been thrown out, and we must start over fromt he beginning asking questions about what the changes mean and what the plans are now.
The fact information will be given on a weekly basis is good, but we need some clarifications of what we are being given for those not in the WotC offices to understand what is being said.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 11:02PM
#48
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Date Joined:
Mar 26, 2008
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Also, looks like they reduced the prices accross the board. Thanks.
Its too much for me. It will be cheaper to buy the Power books (which is what the Compendium would save me money on), while the Dungeon magazines are almost completely useless because my group doesn't like WotC adventures.
With Dragon I found the following articles useful. Issue #364:
* Playing Warforged
* Forest of Flesh
* Class Acts: Wizards
* Wolves of Maldeen
* Creature Incarnations: Kobolds
Issue #365:
* Artificer
* Dolurrh's Dawn
Issue #366:
* Wish Upon a Star
* Trapped
So ultimately its not worth it for me. I'm happy to partake while free, but I'll be dropping it once they start charging.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 11:06PM
#49
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Date Joined:
Aug 23, 2004
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Please define "web content only".
Basically, the stuff that's available for free right now: Dragon articles, Dungeon articles, & the Compendium.
The fancier stuff like the character visualizer, v-minis and v tabletop will be a different (read: higher) pricing system.
I was really thinking that the eventual character visualizer, v-tabletop etc were going to get a free trial period as well, but now I guess not. Kind of risky to subscribe to things sight unseen IMO.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 06, 2008 - 11:36PM
#50
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Nice.
D&DI for $7.95/month
For which you can get a stack of magazines full of content they cut out of the books or isn't ready for publication. Or you can just pop on once every six months, pay the $8, and get 12 magazines.
And the D&D Compendium: which is like having the pdf of the books and the ctrl-F function. Only one keeps costing you more and more and more the longer its used.
I like the update but and disappointed by the tone that seems to suggest it's still going to be a while before the actual content of D&DI is online. Especially since this seems like a delaying tactic to get money to subsidize their loss.
I mean, I'm enjoying the articles but I wouldn't pay money for them, especially after getting them for free for six months.
I wonder how much content the WotC site will have after this, with almost everything being thrown at Dungeon mag & Dragon mag to keep its content up.
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