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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 3:52PM #1
WotC_Bart
Date Joined: May 19, 2004
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Hi folks,

Setting this feedback thread in advance for Randy's Digital Insider #8, due to go live later today.
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 3:53PM #2
Ranadiel
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WotC_Bart wrote:

Hi folks,

Setting this feedback thread in advance for Randy's Digital Insider #7, due to go live later today.


*cough*8*cough*:P

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 4:00PM #3
whitebaron
Date Joined: Aug 13, 2007
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you guys should really automate this posting, it's a programming task that takes mere minutes... (unlike ddi tools)
Here be dragons:

May 25, 2012 -- 10:10PM, Dranack wrote:

Sadly, I don't think this has anything to do with wanting Next to be a great game.
It has to do with wanting Next to determine who won the Edition War.
[...]
For those of us who just want D&D Next to be a good game, this is getting to be a real drag.


Nov 17, 2010 -- 1:05PM, Jharii wrote:

I think I figured it out.  This program is a character builder, not a character builder.  It teaches patience, empathy, and tolerance.  All most excellent character traits.

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 4:15PM #4
KM.549
Date Joined: Sep 24, 2002
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Can we get a feedback thread for this feedback thread? Seems the orginal poster does not know that #7 was last week.
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 4:17PM #5
Dralenan
Date Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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KM wrote:

Can we get a feedback thread for this feedback thread? Seems the orginal poster does not know that #7 was last week.


Notice the notice on the typo contains a typo...

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 5:32PM #6
Rhianni32
Date Joined: Jun 10, 2008
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"I'm not super interested in arguing about whether we're actually doing what we said we're going to do. If a lot of you are either confused or frustrated, then there is clearly something we could be doing better. Are the updates too hard to find? Is our schedule too difficult to follow? Is it good to see the Table of Contents ahead of time because it promotes interest and discussion, or is the tease a net negative? Is our website navigation so confusing that you didn't even know there was a Table of Contents or thrice-weekly content updates? From my seat, I remain convinced that the quality of the content we're generating is quite high, and I want to avoid any issues of presentation and expectation becoming a problem for us where one doesn't need to exist."


This reminds me of about a couple months or so back when the forum was screaming for any information on D&DI and Gamerzero asked what format we want it in. He really missed the point of what we were asking for. We wanted info and updates the editing and format was immaterial.
Likewise with these questions I think its the same thing. All of these questions are side stepping the issues that we are asking and talking about.

The overall issue is stick to what you say you are gonna do. We will work around that but when you set expectactions we expect them to occur.

Are the updates too hard to find? Every article has their own thread. Its easy enough to find when they come out. You also have a table of contents that sometimes will have a link when an article comes out. But not always. that part gets frustrating because we really can't trust it.

Is our schedule too difficult to follow? This question really ****** me off but I'll try not to answer emotionally. No its not difficult for us to follow its M-W-F. Putting articles up at 11:59 pm technically follows the letter of the release schedule but not really the spirit. And I guess saying that its not really a schedule but that its something you try to do but may miss some takes some of the edge off but again it goes back to expectations.

Is it good to see the Table of Contents ahead of time because it promotes interest and discussion, or is the tease a net negative?
Expectations. If you have a list of what is coming out this month it really needs to come out that month.

Please do jump on this week's forum and let me know whether you agree and what you think we should do to make things better.
Do what you say and say what you do. I dont know why the forum has to keep saying this month after month.

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 5:33PM #7
KM.549
Date Joined: Sep 24, 2002
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Link to #8 : http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn … /20080924a


I like how he says in order to get into the beta of the character maker, it will only be open to subscribers first.
But in this thread: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1090238

WotC_DM says: To be crystal clear, there are absolutely no plans to charge for the usage of the BETA version of the character builder.

Great update guys, at least you are being consitent with misleading your customers. No wonder you waited until 5 PM PST to put out this update, because you all knew the reaction it would get and did not want to face your customers.
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 5:39PM #8
KM.549
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Is our schedule too difficult to follow?

Apparntly so, because WOTC is the ones not following it.
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 5:46PM #9
Dralenan
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It does say there are other groups that will get first crack, but doesn't specify, so it doesn't explicitly say that only subscribers will get the beta. But it sure sounds like it.

The two worst things about communications here are contradictions and unclear wordings. So much of what's gone on the last several months is due to both of those. The issue with the beta is an example.
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2008 - 5:51PM #10
KM.549
Date Joined: Sep 24, 2002
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Looks like the majority of the people that want to try the beta of the character maker when it first comes out will have to subscribe. Unles you are a "specifically selected playtester" But I bet WOTC will be very quiet on how to be one of those. I have never seen info on how to sign up for any of the beta on DDi.

This totally goes against what WotC DM said in my other post, that there was no plans at all for them to charge for the beta.

What one is it WOTC? But can we really trust your answer either way? This is really driving me away from the whole hobby, you misleading people. Is that what you want? to drive your customers away?
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