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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 9:44PM #11
Haplo81
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2007
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Haldrik wrote:

Huh? I dont get it.

[INDENT][A] Controller .. that control[s] at close range"? Isnt that what a Defender is?[/INDENT]

A Controller controls the long range to block enemies in the distance. A Defender controls the close range to block enemies, as a bodyguard.


They can do both.

The write-up says the class is a controller/defender or controller/leader depending on your picks.

Wishlist:
-Alternate ability bonuses for pre-PHB3 races
-Lots more superior implements or an official customization rule
-Monk multiclass feat that grants Unarmed Combatant
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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 9:56PM #12
Guardian_Kaiser
Date Joined: Apr 4, 2004
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Well first I would like to say druid looks like it will be another unique option to add to a cast of fun playable classes. However I am disappointed with the playtest. It is shorter then the bard preview and really lacks the content to really be playtested, the other playtests had a lot of content as I have had players already using them in a campaign (although they cant wait for the book to see all of their options). I just hope in the future these will be called previews as I have been quite excited since I saw the December release list and very glad I paid for DDI, but now I'm a little disappointed.

However I have noticed the levels 1-3 as mentioned above can be accessed by anyone perhaps this is the free version and the paid for version will be released later. :D Well either way druid looks nice and I can not wait for PHB2 (and the Invoker's little showing).
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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 9:57PM #13
Fox_Reeveheart
Date Joined: Feb 29, 2004
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Haplo81 wrote:

They can do both.

The write-up says the class is a controller/defender or controller/leader depending on your picks.


actually it says a STRIKER or leader secondary role :O

and i'm a free-person and I can see the content.

and yes it bothers me it says levels 1-3 yet it's only 1-2... thats barely a preview... thats like the preview of a class they would show at the end of the magazine. like they did with tempest fighter...

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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:00PM #14
CelticMutt
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Date Joined: Jul 25, 2007
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According to the issue ToC (as opposed to the editorial calender), the Druid article is now an Ampersand instead of Playtest, and the ToC doesn't even mention the Invoker as far as I saw.

But yeah, the missing level 3 is annoying.
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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:03PM #15
susannymn
Date Joined: Sep 25, 2007
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Ooh,is this the place for errata on the Druid? I may have one:

Currently Written - "At-Will Attack Powers: You begin with three at-will attack powers. Throughout your career, at least one of those powers, and no more than two, must have the beast form keyword."

Proposed Errata(/Change, if this is in time): "At-Will Attack Powers: You begin with three at-will attack powers. Throughout your career, at least one of those powers must have the beast form keyword, and at least one must not have the beast form keyword."

That would seem to me to be what they're going for (and gives the Human Druids a bit of extra love ). All in all, looks great.
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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:09PM #16
Haldrik
Date Joined: Jan 2, 2004
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Haplo: The write-up says the class is a controller/defender or controller/leader depending on your picks.


Actually, the word 'Defender' doesnt occur anywhere in the Druid playtest, even tho the beast form seems to be a Defender.

Or else, these role names (Defender, Leader, Striker, and Controller) are so vague and wishywashy, they really have no meaning at all.


If the Druid is a Defender, they must call it a Defender.

If the Druid really is a little bit of everything, thats ok, but they need to make it clear that thats what it is: a Defender-Striker-Controller-Leader hybrid.

Traditionally, the Druid has always been a little bit of everything, so I guess its ok, as long as its clear. Personally, Iv always used the Druid as a Gish.

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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:15PM #17
Haldrik
Date Joined: Jan 2, 2004
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Power Source: Primal. You have gained your powers through a careful study of and communion with the natural world.


Ok. I like the flavor of this power source:

[INDENT]Primal = plants and animals, and weather patterns = biology, ecology, ecosystems, biomes, living organisms and their habitats, etc. = Nature, the Natural World = the plane of the Mortal World.[/INDENT]

But this implies, the plane of Feywild DOESNT equate with Nature. Fey creatures are really supernatural, enchanted, preternatural, unnatural. So, all the scenic 'natural' beauty of Feywild really isnt natural.

Notably, upto now, the Feywild falls under the Arcana knowledge skill, and not the Nature skill check. This too suggests that the Feywild is unnatural.

While this is fine, and can even make sense, the books need to explain the difference.

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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:26PM #18
The_Badger_02
Date Joined: Mar 8, 2005
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CelticMutt wrote:

According to the issue ToC (as opposed to the editorial calender), the Druid article is now an Ampersand instead of Playtest, and the ToC doesn't even mention the Invoker as far as I saw.

But yeah, the missing level 3 is annoying.


I just tried to get to the ToC, and I got a message saying that 'this article is not up yet.' Hopefully we'll get this level 3 soon.

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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:33PM #19
Haldrik
Date Joined: Jan 2, 2004
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Looking at the powers, in addition to plants and animals, the Druid has power over the elements:

It seems the Druid (and thus the Primal power source) has powers over Water and Air (mist, wind), Storm (lightning), Fire, and Cold (frost).

But it seems to lack powers over Earth (soil, rock, metal, crystal, etc.)?

Do both the Primal and the Arcane power sources share dominion over the Elements and the plane of the Elemental Chaos?
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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 10:34PM #20
CelticMutt
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One rather amusing thing to note so far - Elves and Razorclaw Shifters make the best Predator Druids for the Dex/Wis combo, no real surprise there. But dwarves make the best Guardian Druids, for the Con/Wis combo. Heh, in 2e that dwarf druid friend of Drizzt's was some kinda freak of nature, now Druid is going to be one of the dwarves' better classes. :D
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