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Yes we will all play the game your way.

Now back in the real world were we are not constrained by any one persons perceptions of how the game should be played out, my problem with the AP outline is rather more simple. I simply don't know which parts of the map are important to the AP and so which parts I can erase to use the AP in my setting. For example are the Wyvernwatch Mountains or the Thornwaste going to matter? They've already added detail beyond the initial Elsir Vale maps (Overlook and a whole mountain range!), so are they going to add more?

This leaves me with 2 choices, wait 18 months for the whole adventure path to be complete so I can use it in my setting or abandon my setting and just use the AP one.

Now I dislike the latter, because frankly the AP setting is empty, if they put out a Player's Guide for the AP like Paizo does for theirs it wouldn't be such an issue. I mean what can you tell me about Denovar, Vraath Keep, or the Hammerfist Holds?

At least we got a paragraph in Brodin's Watch about the Westdeep, pity we remain in the dark about the Witchwood, the Marth Forest, the Thronwaste, three sets of mountains, and a major lake. (Lets try to avoid the fact they changed the way the Elsir River flows when they put a source in the Stonehome mountains in Brodin's Watch)

In short the given overview is utterly useless to me as a DM, its about as comprehensive as my notes for my own AP that I'm working on, but for my players I at least have 10+ pages (should they want it) of general background for the region they are in including the settlements their charactes can originate from, and even a few distant places they might have come from. The issue of Dragon that corresponded to Rescue at Rivenroar could have easily had details on Brindol and a paragraph on the major features around it to give out as player information. (I know I could have lived without Character Concepts, and Backdrop: Cormyr in 365, as long as they turned up in 366 - not that there is a real reason to not have both, page count is arbitary conceptually with a digital product anway.)

Basically nothing about the provided overview is greatly reasuring for me as a DM.

Actually there is a third option - WotC can do a better job of presenting it.

But we shouldn't say that apparently.

sotp_seamus wrote:

No, the only possible third option, it seems, is to complain incessantly about something you can't possibly do anything about.

So its feedback if I say its good, and complaining if I say its bad?

I'm pretty sure this is the right place for people to be saying what they dislike or like about the AP and express the reasoning they have for those likes/dislikes.

sotp_seamus wrote:

Or write your own.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned doing that already... I run multiple games and the AP is the sort of thing I'm looking for, for an extra game to the ones I have now. I simply do not have enough information to make good use of it at the moment (either lack of info on what is important in terms of location, or lack of background for character use). Silly me I thought I should say why where someone at WotC might notice.

sotp_seamus wrote:

Or, maybe in 18 months, take another look at this path.

Actually if I don't subscribe to DDI now there is no clear way at this time to obtain content that existed prior to a subscription. It has been indicated that WotC wants content access to be from subscription forward, though, so that is a concenr. Because if I wait I may not be able to get the non-free content.

sotp_seamus wrote:

But, please, don't tell me I'm wrong for suggesting that there's more to the story than what we've seen.

How about you wait for me to do that before you ask me to stop it?

PS: At least you got it eventually