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5 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2008 - 3:34PM
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Add me to the list of potential DMs clamouring for an overview of the entire adventure path.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 19, 2008 - 3:51PM
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As I've stated in other Scales of War threads I too want an overview and the character background article would kind of be nice as well as we already have the second adventure out....
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5 years ago ::
Aug 20, 2008 - 10:28AM
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I would also like to see an overview. I'm about at the point that I need to see it to believe there is a coherent storyline. Right now it seems to be lightly strung together adventures -- which is not what Adventure Path has come to mean to their audience. I am also disappointed that all of the mistakes and omissions found and reported weren't addressed, or heck, even acknowledged by the Dungeon staff. We were told that mistakes found in an article would be fixed when the complied issue came out. Not one word or Rivenroar was changed. Perhaps it was the looming deadlines, or GenCon, or whatever that caused the editor to ignore these remarks or perhaps regulate us to the status of "message board trolls" as Mr. Young does in his GRZ interview on YouTube. In fact, this expectation of change, of communication, is one of the reasons I posted the problems I found with the adventure. I really expected they would be addressed -- even if it had been an "oops, we goofed, but we will do better." Dragon has hit a few out of the park, but Dungeon has faltered. We all want their success. Yes, so far I have gotten what I have paid for. The purpose of the preview is to sell this "printing" model. So far it's a C- and we are all hoping for better.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 1:47AM
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I agree that a campaign overview is a must. I'm a control freak and there's no way I'm going to start a new campaign if I don't have at least a vague idea of what is going to happen in it. The way Red Hand of Doom handled this kind of information in the Introduction chapter was perfect: a section on preparation, on the adventure background, the adventure outline and especially the timeline! For the people who don't own RHoD, this chapter was released in an excerpt: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn … 02a&page=1
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5 years ago ::
Aug 21, 2008 - 1:59AM
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Mar 20, 2001
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Well, which do you want to do? Have the river flow uphill into a mountain range as indicated by a module from five years ago that you're not running, or downhill into a lake as indicated by a module you're currently running?
Tricky since our group has played RHoD so is familiar with the direction of the river, they actually rowed up stream to the lake in question.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 22, 2008 - 1:58PM
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Tricky since our group has played RHoD so is familiar with the direction of the river, they actually rowed up stream to the lake in question.
This was my challenge, too. All of my players except one played Red Hand of Doom and traveled upstream (east and north) to Lake Rhest. Upstream, as in against the current...
So, I just changed it when we started "Siege of Bordrin's Watch" last night. I went with the notion that the Elsir River flows through a very deep and very narrow gorge through the Mindspin Mountains (as opposed to Stonehome, we play in Paizo's Golarion).
It's ridiculous how much fixing a DM has to do these "finished" products. Call me a "message board troll," Youngs. It doesn't change the fact that "Rescue" and "Siege" are sub par products with horrendously bad editing. That has nothing to do with message boards trolls.
And Red Hand of Doom came out in spring 2006 - it's only two years old, and new enough that someone at Dungeon could have simply looked at the map and see the Elsir River flows west - it even widens as it makes its bend around the south side of the Wyrmsmoke Mountains. C'mon.
-------- Don (Greyson) --------
Non-smoker, White, Non-golfer, U.S. American
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5 years ago ::
Aug 23, 2008 - 10:55AM
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And Red Hand of Doom came out in spring 2006 - it's only two years old, and new enough that someone at Dungeon could have simply looked at the map and see the Elsir River flows west - it even widens as it makes its bend around the south side of the Wyrmsmoke Mountains. C'mon.
And it would seem that most of us either own or have access to Red Hand....AND know more about the Elsir Vale than the authors of these 2 adventures.
Yep. Im a troll. All your customers are trolls. We actually expect you to deliver coherent, useful content, such miserable trolls we are. You're supposed to be convincing me to spend MONEY on this web stuff. My take now, is that you should be paying US to run it, since we're doing most of the Elsir Vale/Adventure to Adventure tie in FOR you.
Troll Troll Troll.
D&D-OUTSIDER Since 3/1/2011
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5 years ago ::
Aug 26, 2008 - 3:07PM
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Aug 26, 2008
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How am I supossed to make grids for this adventure path?
oh and
OVER-VIEW
OVER-VIEW
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5 years ago ::
Aug 27, 2008 - 9:36AM
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Hi Linus, Let me just start off by saying you certainly have a way with words! Your last sentence did put a little bug in my ear though. It is off topic and perhaps a new thread should be started but perhaps a Community Built Adventure Path? It is one of those things that sounds good and everyone jumps on immediately but it would require a great deal of work and coordination so don't agree and offer up time lightly. But, I thought it might be worth exploring as the lack of any response from WotC about huge problems in SoW is becoming extremely frustrating. Anyone? Tom
And it would seem that most of us either own or have access to Red Hand....AND know more about the Elsir Vale than the authors of these 2 adventures.
Yep. Im a troll. All your customers are trolls. We actually expect you to deliver coherent, useful content, such miserable trolls we are. You're supposed to be convincing me to spend MONEY on this web stuff. My take now, is that you should be paying US to run it, since we're doing most of the Elsir Vale/Adventure to Adventure tie in FOR you.
Troll Troll Troll.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 29, 2008 - 5:58AM
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Jun 10, 2008
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Providing us with an overview would require them to have an overview in the first place.
At this point from the adventures given and the errors everyone else has mentioned from the setting I'm begining to think that these are just adventures they are calling an adventure path
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