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5 years ago ::
Jun 07, 2008 - 10:16AM
#51
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Date Joined:
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I'm fine with the fifteen dollar fee, but from what I've seen so far the quality of the content on the website has lowered and been released less frequently.
I wonder how long till I have to pay 10 a month to read MaRo articles
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5 years ago ::
Jun 07, 2008 - 10:35AM
#52
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Date Joined:
Aug 25, 2007
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There´s only one MMORPG that´s 15$ a month and thats AoC
ALL others charge 10 to 0.
World of Warcraft is 14.99 a month as well. Just to bring you up to speed.
But I have to mirror what several others have said. *Is the content worth $15.00 a month?* Lets look at a couple of things.
1. None of the services are out, and they have said they will not be charging until all the services are available. -- This means its hard to see if I would get $15.00 of use out of them
2. On the flip side, they *did* say at Gencon last year that the books would come with codes that would expand the content and allow access to more info online for purchasing the books, and give you basic tools. Then for a "small fee" you would get much more content. -- This appears to have gotten changed as things developed.
3 There is always another choice -- The wonderful thing about the world wide web, is there is always another choice. (as posted above)
VW~
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5 years ago ::
Jun 07, 2008 - 10:38AM
#53
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Date Joined:
Sep 26, 2006
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Wizards, heck more like corruptors!
You guys are ca$h hog$, (its all about the dollars,huh?). I understood there was going to be a nominal fee for on-line content, BUT $15.mo. is outrageous!
You would havebeen/would be much better served with a less charge per month, (say $6.99/mo.). Let's look at our current state of affairs.. currently most RPG'ers play one, or more on-line games somewhere between $10-$15/mo. for play, figure in the fact just to get the core handbooks,(PHB,MM,DMG), is about $100.00 (+/-, depending on specials, cupons, etc.), these books are said to be updated about once a year, then you expect EVERYONE to pay $15 for this? You guys are drinkin' somegood sauce, and Iwant some! I can't see how a kid,(8-15), can afford this monthly fee, ecspecially if they are playing an MMO as well. Heck, I can't see how some adults could pay for this either with the current reccession America is in, with increased costs in food,gas, and an unemployment rate at where it is.
Let's say you guys,(*****s of the Coast), get 100,000 @ $15.00/month.that's great! You guys are making a whopping 1.5million/month! Congrats!
Now, let's say you guys got wise, and lessened the fee to say something like $6.99/month, and you generate some buzz, and get 500,000 customers..that would equal $3,495,000 a month. You guys would make more money,(and have not to do anything more), and get favorable responses from most,(likely, for not feeling like they're getting raped for the monthly service charge).
But, hey! It's your company, do it the way you want, but you will lose more money, and customers keeping at YOUR status quo!
This on-line community SHOULD favor your consumers. BUT, if you continue to think that we,(community), are willing to pay $15/month, you guys are DREAMING! Many of us, felt dis-infranchised by the move to 4th edition,( although most have been impressed with the new system), my DnD group, (at least), felt we have WASTED soo much money on 3.0, let alone 3.5 books, that we are not willing to pay $100.00 each year,(just for the core-books mind you), let alone $15.00/month for this on-line junk.
I will be patient,(hehe), for a few months, if there is no change to your whoring ways expect a backlash that will bankrupt you guys by the end of the next year. I see now that you guys envision this as your new cash cow, rethink your strategy, or lose your loyal customer base. It's your bed..do you want it warm, or cold?
Ogremage
P.S.: I appoligize now for not having ieSpell atm, and any grammar errors!
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5 years ago ::
Jun 07, 2008 - 9:19PM
#54
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I'm a mom who is a gamer with three boys at home who all like to game. The two youngest like video games and DnD. The teenager likes video games and magic the gathering online and offline. My husband also games. He pays the $10 a month (I think) for Age of Conan. So, we spend a lot on gaming.
I have to agree that $15 a month is too much. It is costing them a lot less to produce digital magazines and other digital products. So, they are just trying to make a buck. They are a business, afterall. However, I feel that with the current economy, the $15 a month is tough. That's gas money for a lot of people. I'd rather use that money towards another book or a deck of MTG cards.
I also agree that it is too much to be charging when the site is not yet delivering all that it has promised for the amount paid. The only thing you can do is write them a letter of protest and not subscribe.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 07, 2008 - 9:44PM
#55
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Date Joined:
Feb 14, 2008
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Actually, I'd be quite interested in seeing the sales figures on the new PHB. My gut tells me that 100,000 IS WAY off for the number of subscribers that would pay $15.00/month. However, I wonder if it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that, if the fee were $15 per YEAR, they might not get 10 times as many subscriptions. In this case, they would probably make more money (since the majority of those whould would subscribe as it is now would go for the yearly $120 offer), generate a more positive response from the role-playing community (public relations), AND possibly attract new players who would otherwise have been turned off by the subscription fee (many who play WoW don't play D&D, but might if it were made attractive to the online afficianado).
$15.00/month (or $120/year) on the other hand, is too much. Fewer people will subscribe, the majority of roleplayers will be insulted, and few will be interested in learning a new game. Plus the fact that, apparently, the beta isn't even up and running (as far as I can tell, the site gives no information), makes the folks at Wizards look fairly incompetant, hurting their overall reputation. It's very possible that this whole thing could turn into a fiasco and a public relations nightmare that Wizards may take years to recover from.
And for those who think $15.00/month isn't much money, join my Chocolate Bar of the Month Club (RT). For a nominal fee of $15.00/month I'll ship you a randomly selected chocolate bar each month. "You never know what you're gonna get!"
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5 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2008 - 12:10AM
#56
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Date Joined:
Mar 16, 2008
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I think it is justifiable
#1. 15 dollars for quite a few thing other then just 1 thing
like the Dungeon and Dragon Mags, updates and mini patches, online tools, customizable game (no more grinding 1 quest for inf now it is different every time). so imo its not a bad price if it was higher then it would be a big FU from me.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2008 - 12:29AM
#57
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Date Joined:
Jan 20, 2005
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You're saying that you'd complain about the restaurant because you didn't like the free sample, and you'd complain about the movie because you didn't like the free trailer? Why? Isn't your mind already made up?
After you've already decided you don't like the product anyway, you still think it's important to complain about the price?
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First of all let me start by saying, that I do plan giving DDI a try. If I don't like I'll stop paying, and if I do like like it I will drop WoW and there is no net change in my budget. However, if I have already made up my mind about a product or think it is extremely over priced, yes I will still complain. I happen to think that it is the consumer's reposibility to give constructive and polite complaints to management and companies. It is one of the methods used by business to be adjust their products and services to remain competitive.
I am a manager in a business, and believe it or not, I do value a complaint, especially one given in a polite manner. I even value complaints from those who have already decided not to use our services. And as a point of fact, I would be very closed minded if I dismissed the complaint due to that fact without considering its merits. After all those are sometimes the most informative and useful to me. WotC is no different. They have asked us to test out DDI in next few months (while it is free) and tell them what works and what does not. They want to know the complaints (even if it is about pricing). I believe they want to provide the best product possible, and need input for to that end.
Complaints do not always mean that a change will or can be made, but it still helps any business adjust its service and allows consumers to have a voice in the private industry.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2008 - 9:41AM
#58
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2007
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DDI will tank.
Know why? The economy sucks right now and people don't have extra spending cash and are looking for good deals.
If you offer college students (a big market demographic that is into this kind of fantasy gaming)
A) A WoW account
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B) DDI monthy
Well, you can guess which one they have more time for and which they think would be a better value.
WoTC will lower its price or die in market compeition. You can bet they will go red on this venture because the demand is just not there, they've overprice themselves out of the market.
People will vote with their wallets and WoTC will learn this the hard way if they keep this path going.
And $15 for lunch wtf?! I can easily get a solid meal for $7.50, most of my college friends are broke and drop as low as $3.50 or LESS. You need to cut back on the steak and lobsters or else move out of your parents basement. OP needs log off WoW more and spend some time outside.
Tolkein was a jerk. Seriously, what DM sends 9 Wraith Lords at a Lvl 2 party of Halflings.
The only 'correct' way to play D&D is by whatever method is making the group you have at that session, have the most fun.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2008 - 10:19AM
#59
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Date Joined:
Aug 11, 2006
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Ahhh--another reason why I miss the old days of my red Gary Gygax (may he RIP) boxed basic set when I was in High School! Things were much simpler and a heck of a lot more fun! I will not be buying anymore D&D 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, DDI, mini, or any other expensive rip offs. I'm happy with my old editions and my Castles and Crusades--and my kids have more fun with them than any of this latest trash. Wizards--I love your Magic Online, Magic TCG physical cards and your EXCELLENT Magic novels and I will continually support this high quality game--but so long to anything else!
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5 years ago ::
Jun 08, 2008 - 10:28AM
#60
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15 dollars a month, a joke, there isnt enough on ddi that id want to make it worth 15 dollars,.
charge two. fifty per article and it will do better
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
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