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5 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2008 - 4:32PM
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Why is D&D's online extra content more expensive than a World of Warcraft account? A Player's Handbook without any discount is the same price as WoW WITH the expansion and even that comes with a free month- in addition to the 10 day trial anyone can grab.
This is ridiculous, people who buy the books should have access to this online content FOR FREE.
The Player's handbook should have a code that upgrades your FREE dndi account to player access on the online game table, and the dmg should upgrade you to DM access. That's how it should be, and each book should come with a code to expand your content- not this monthly subscription BS.
If you're going to charge at least make it reasonable for pete's sake, 15 a month is RIDICULOUS even for an MMORPG and this is just a website! I preordered my 4th edition books because I was promised online play, and now I have to pay more to have it? I'm outraged- this is not a way to keep your loyal customers tbh, and definitely not going to persuade more people to purchase your books and software when they can much more easily pirate them.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2008 - 6:38PM
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The good MMOs are $15 per month if you pay by month. I heard it was $10 per month if you pay by year.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 02, 2008 - 9:22PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 21, 2007
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I preordered my 4th edition books because I was promised online play, and now I have to pay more to have it?
You seem to imply that someone promised you free online play. Whomever told you that was incorrect. WotC has never promised free online play. I've been keeping up with the 4e news since GenCon last year when it was all announced and the online game table was always described as part of DDi and it was said that DDi was going to be for a fee (but it took awhile for them to decide on that fee amount). Personally, i don't think you should be blaming WotC for your own lack of homework on finding out the facts before you ordered your books.
Relax... besides, it's not like there aren't other online tools out there to let you play. I hear people talking about them on these forums all the time. Personally, i prefer to play face to face whenever possible.
I will agree with you on one thing though. I think the monthly price is about $5 too high. I think it should be $10 per mo./ $6 per mo. if paid yearly. Either that or a la carte. Personally, i want the online-zines, but as a Mac user, i can't use any of the fancy new tools.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 3:21AM
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Feb 19, 2005
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www.openrpg.comIts a free onine gaming table. Grid map, dice roller, etc. And its free. Pair it with a voicechat program (I used Teamspeak) and you are living la vida broka.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 6:53AM
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It was originally announced that the monthly fee was going to be somewhere BETWEEN an MMO and a Dragon Mag subscription. I feel very decieved, as I was expecting (and excited about) no more than $10 a month. Having a wife that games as well, I will have to pay double the amount of course, and I am HUGELY disappointed hearing that it's $15/month (times two). Also, I'm expecting that each player will need their own PHB too, seeing how things look.
sadly,
-G
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 6:58AM
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Is it even worth it? Has anyone seen these tools in action? Are the online magazines downloadable PDFs or are they held on the site and only accessible as long as WotC decides to keep them available? Do you actually need multiple accounts for a group of players?
Ultimately, are they just telling us its worth $15 is it worth it?
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 10:36AM
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Date Joined:
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As Grimm pointed out, there was never any deception. That there would be a cost of subscribing to D&D Insider has been known since it was announced.
As far as wanting access for free... I don't get that. You pay for a book, and a book is what you get. If you want the add-ons and digital tools and so forth, then you pay for those. It's like buying a car -- they don't give you the gas for free.
And 15 bucks a month? Who would complain about such a trivial amount of money? I can barely buy lunch for that. Not only that, but it's less than subscribing to the print versions of Dragon and Dungeon magazines used to be, except that you get both magazine, plus rulebook add-ons, plus digital tools, online gaming table, etc etc...
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 12:46PM
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And 15 bucks a month? Who would complain about such a trivial amount of money? I can barely buy lunch for that. Not only that, but it's less than subscribing to the print versions of Dragon and Dungeon magazines used to be, except that you get both magazine, plus rulebook add-ons, plus digital tools, online gaming table, etc etc...
I find these thoughts laughable. First, it assumes that $15/ month is trivial which for many people it is NOT. I play with several people who balk at the idea of spending $30 on books let alone $15/ month.
Second it assumes that just because you can blow $15 on lunch that you should be joyful for handing it over. Some of us (ME) like to get value for their money. I don't see the value here. For $15/month I can buy exactly the content I want, not whatever random content WotC decides to stuff into the mags. Or I can buy a Pizza for my game group every month which is much more likely to get used than the 3d character "visualizer" which will probably get used for 15 minutes then forgotten.
Finally, if your maths are broken that's $180/ year which IS a significant amount of money. Some of us enjoy saving a bit here and there and dropping an extra $15/ mo on whatever tickles our fancy burns through a lot of cash in a hurry.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 2:30PM
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THere are 3 paying options 10 a month /year 13 / 3 months 15/ 1 month. And if your going 10 a month you'll paying less than what MOST mmorpgs monthly fees are.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 03, 2008 - 2:49PM
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Mar 11, 2006
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First, it assumes that $15/ month is trivial which for many people it is NOT. I play with several people who balk at the idea of spending $30 on books let alone $15/ month.
Second it assumes that just because you can blow $15 on lunch that you should be joyful for handing it over. Some of us (ME) like to get value for their money. I don't see the value here.
There's not much point in debating whether the $15/month, or $180/year, is a lot of money or not. I don't know anyone over the age of 16 who would think that's a lot of money, but if you do then you have my sympathy.
The larger issue, as you point out, is whether or not you're getting value for the money. But again, there's not much point in debating that either, since none of us has used DDI yet. Let's both subscribe for a month when it becomes available and then we can decide if the $15 was worth it.
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