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5 years ago ::
Apr 11, 2008 - 9:24AM
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As someone who really has enjoyed all three cartoons so far, I can understand a bit of where faintestinkling is coming from.
I'm really uspet about the low amount of content on Insider. My opinion is that, while comics/toons certainly have their place in the zines, there should be a lot more than just them.
It may be that these comics are not as highly regarded as they otherwise should/might be because they are seen as a "waste of resources".
Now by that I don't mean they're not worth doing, not by a longshot. However, I personally would prefer a whole lot more crunch than humor.
To use an analogy, it's like putting a spoiler and spinners on a Yugo: buy a quality car first, and then pimp it out. No one wants a car that's all bling and breaks down every few miles.
But, to end on a positive note, please keep these toons coming. They're hillarious.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 12, 2008 - 8:40PM
#62
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i'm agree with Aberzanzorax - there would be fewer complaints if more were released on the online dragon. one thing that befuddles me is how the d&d website is having trouble putting out material and is going towards a membership system, whereas the magic website puts out 2 articles a day, plus 2 'tidbits' columns and an ask wizards feature, with no membership/payment thing and without any trouble. (i know i know, different departments, etc. - but DDI could really do with a few pointers from wotc's magic site staff). however, as i've said before, i don't like any of the videos (the third is the least bad, so i suppose it's technically my favourite), but if they were just a small part of what was being put up on the site, i wouldn't mind (like how i didn't mind the magic online weekly article on the mtg website)
Bane on a freaking bike! Not the whole D&D is being aimed at kids crud again!!! As shown in an informal poll most of us started when we were kids and it’s a hobby where we play act at being people from stories and fairy tales it has always appealed to kids.
I am really sick to the back teeth of people in their late twenties and thirties whining that the game is being marketed at the younger generation. First off learn to read and look at the back of the players guide it tells you what age ranges are recommended to play the game. Second get off your high horses - so what if kids want to play the game, doesn’t mean you have to play with them! Most of us played as kids, I see no reason to suggest that this should change.
hey, not everyone who thinks these videos are childish is an old fogey. i'm 19, and i do (as well as many of my friends, who are my age or younger - but i'd best not bring them up, lest i be accused of raising the count)
If you can't convince them, confuse them. -Harry S Truman
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5 years ago ::
Apr 15, 2008 - 6:43PM
#63
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- Senior Volunteer Community Lead
- Sesquipedalian
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Gotta love the little details.
Like that little grey brain the mind flayer was squeezing? That's a gleemax promotional brain. I got one at Gen Con.
:D
Spoiler:
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Of the two approaches to hobby games today, one is best defined as the realism-simulation school and the other as the game school. AD&D is assuredly an adherent of the latter school. It does not stress any realism (in the author's opinon an absurd effort at best considering the topic!).
It does little to attempt to simulate anything either. (AD&D) is first and foremost a game for the fun and enjoyment of those who seek the use of imagination and creativity....
In all cases, however, the reader should understand that AD&D is designed to be an amusing and diverting pastime, something which an fill a few hours or consume endless days, as the participants desire, but in no case something to be taken too seriously.
For fun, excitement and captivating fantasy, AD&D is unsurpassed.As a realistic simulation of things from the realm of make-believe or even as a reflection of midieval or ancient warfare or culture or society, it can be deemed only a dismal failure. Readers who seek the later must search elsewhere. - Gary Gygax. 1e DMG.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 19, 2008 - 1:49AM
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I don't get two things:
One, how people didn't find it funny - it was hilarious. Especially the revisit of "I'm a monster - Rargh!"
Two, how people have the audacity to be so down-putting and rude about Wizards' staff's efforts in producing something funny for us.
I've been with D&D since AD&D 1st edition (just barely) and I remember cartoons from the earliest Yamara to the most recent Order of the Stick. This cartoon would have fit in happily with any of them. I also think those that object to the cartoon as "childish" are also likely in the stages of trying to distance themselves from being childish whilst older people probably don't care.
I enjoyed it as I'm certain a lot of other people did as well. And I don't want the people who produced it not doing more things like this because they think the reward for their work (and I'm sure it took a while) is a bunch of people having a go at them for being too childish, not being funny and - most dumbfounding criticism of all - not containing enough new information about 4th edition rules.
Great work whoever did this. Love all the little details, love the revisiting of previous characters and love the little characterisations such as the Mind Flayer double stamping the dwarf when he starts going into his sex story. :rotfl:
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5 years ago ::
Apr 21, 2008 - 10:01AM
#65
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I don't get two things:
One, how people didn't find it funny - it was hilarious. Especially the revisit of "I'm a monster - Rargh!"
It was sort of cute, but it wasn't terribly funny. Didn't come close to "hilarious" for me, sorry. Different sense of humor, I guess.
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5 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2008 - 10:58AM
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My first thought was, "How does an Illithid eat a gelatinous cube's brain anyway?"
Fart jokes are sophisticated now? (Aside from that, I though it was great, especially the "Food" "Food" "Food" moment.)
ROTFL
"glub blub blub glug" (with gnome inside)
[THRALL]
"glub blub blub glug" (with fruit bowl inside)
[DESSERT]
Hahahaha! It was the best scene of the movie:D
Gotta love the little details.
Like that little grey brain the mind flayer was squeezing? That's a gleemax promotional brain. I got one at Gen Con.
:D
Nooo!!! Really?!! I can't believe it! O_O
I want it!! *.*
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5 years ago ::
Apr 22, 2008 - 6:35PM
#67
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Date Joined:
Apr 11, 2008
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Gotta love the little details.
Like that little grey brain the mind flayer was squeezing? That's a gleemax promotional brain. I got one at Gen Con.
:D
Sorry to sidetrack, but did they ever give more details on the squeezy brain? I never did quite figure out why they mailed me one, or what the writing on it was supposed to mean. Anyone?
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5 years ago ::
Apr 23, 2008 - 3:57AM
#68
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- Senior Volunteer Community Lead
- Dragon Slayer
- D&DI News Guide
Date Joined:
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Sorry to sidetrack, but did they ever give more details on the squeezy brain? I never did quite figure out why they mailed me one, or what the writing on it was supposed to mean. Anyone?
There used to be a really good article on wikipedia about the line of jokes that originally spawned "Gleemax" but that article has been heavily truncated it seems.
All the same, the "short" version is that all the forums now exist as part of "gleemax" WotC attempt to create a gameing-centric social networking website. www.gleemax.com for more.
Wolf Star76 Community Advocate (SVCL) for D&D Organized Play, Avalon Hill, and the DCI/WPN LFR Community Manager DDi Guide  Created by MyFitnessPal - Free Calorie Counter
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5 years ago ::
Apr 26, 2008 - 10:37PM
#69
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Date Joined:
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As someone who really has enjoyed all three cartoons so far, I can understand a bit of where faintestinkling is coming from.
I'm really uspet about the low amount of content on Insider. My opinion is that, while comics/toons certainly have their place in the zines, there should be a lot more than just them.
It may be that these comics are not as highly regarded as they otherwise should/might be because they are seen as a "waste of resources".
Now by that I don't mean they're not worth doing, not by a longshot. However, I personally would prefer a whole lot more crunch than humor.
To use an analogy, it's like putting a spoiler and spinners on a Yugo: buy a quality car first, and then pimp it out. No one wants a car that's all bling and breaks down every few miles.
But, to end on a positive note, please keep these toons coming. They're hillarious.
Y'know, I've always wondered about that particular statement, that the WotC staff should be doing something more crunchy...
Thing is, though... isn't the guy who does the cartoons a Freelancer who doesn't really DO any other work for WotC? (His name on the forums IS RyanM, not WotC_RyanM...) If so, the only resource the cartoons are costing is money.
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5 years ago ::
May 12, 2008 - 12:34PM
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Date Joined:
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If I may be so bold as to speculate on part of the reason why the cartoons haven't gone over well in my group, I believe it is because the edition change itself is somewhat of a sensitive issue (i.e. some people have bought a great deal of books, others none; some love the old rules, some desire improvement; etc.) and therefore ANY "official" jokes about the issue probably aren't going to go over well. More frequent previews of the new rules might persuade the reticent players, where jokes about the gnome being in the Monster Manual might simply aggravate them (since some people still don't like this decision).
I normally don't like answering back on a thread, but I hope that clarifies my opinion.
Yep, that's much clearer, thanks!!
I think you hit the nail on the head - many folks are sensitive about the new edition, and I think some people take my attempts at humor as me poking fun at their sensitivity, which is not my intention at all. Serioulsy, we just wanted to make some fun cartoons, they are not intended to signal a shift in the direction of D&D or anything like that. But I can understand how some would take it that way.
Ryan Miller
Game Designer
Wizards of the Coast
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