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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 8:12AM
#481
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Or, alternatively, fighters can use Weapon enchantments on weapons (including quarterstaves) and the "staffs as implements" text is slightly lazy/slack but is intended to apply to the staves listed in the table for which it forms part of the introductory text.
Not all quarterstaves have "properties" - all staves that have enchantments on them do.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 8:23AM
#482
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Or, alternatively, ... the "staffs as implements" text is slightly lazy/slack but is intended to apply to the staves listed in the table for which it forms part of the introductory text.
that is also a possibilty, but then how do you explain the sorcerer-implement ? (paraphrasing)
- sorcerer can use dagger
- sorcerer can use staffs
- remember: if you use a dagger as a implement, you can't use the special powers
or the fact that there are 2 staffs defined in the PHB (one as weapon group, one as non-magical gear)?
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 8:24AM
#483
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More seriously: there are folk that are actually arguing that there are two totally separate things that are both called "staff" in the rules. How they tell this I have no idea - maybe they see spellings with two different ASCII codes for one of the 'f's or something - I've given up caring.
There are also two seperate things both called "mace" and another two seperate things both called "spear." Maybe after their multiple uses of the term "level" in previous editions to mean different things they thought we could handle the concept of a word that means more than one thing?
Or, alternatively, fighters can use Weapon enchantments on weapons (including quarterstaves) and the "staffs as implements" text is slightly lazy/slack but is intended to apply to the staves listed in the table for which it forms part of the introductory text.[/quote]
So you see there is a distinction in the rules between an implement staff and a quarterstaff and that enchanted implement staffs follow different rules than enchanted quarterstaffs. Good.
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4 years ago ::
Jun 22, 2009 - 8:26AM
#484
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that is also a possibilty, but then how do you explain the sorcerer-implement ? (paraphrasing)
- sorcerer can use dagger
- sorcerer can use staffs
- remember: if you use a dagger as a implement, you can't use the special powers
It's nitpicking, but you can use the special powers; it specifies that you can't use the proficiency bonus of daggers when they're used as an implement. It's true of all weapons used as implements, but it is indeed rather telling that they specified it for daggers and not staffs; the authors clearly don't count staffs as weapons.
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