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2 years ago :: Mar 26, 2011 - 7:11PM #931
ZIYI Date Joined: Feb 29, 2004 Posts: 5	I have a question about "Slashing Wake" & "Winter Winds" ... How if the targets have "cold resist" or "resist all X" ? For the case like "Resist All 10" , Int 28 (mod+9) cant pass resist, even pluse radiant one or hell prince the winter wind with lasting frost may pass "resist all 10" , but still block by other cold resist (>15) and request a cold power hit frist (for a build force on autodamage/effect, the hit rate is low...) --- Is any way for "slashing wake" to not block by "resist all 10" ?
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2 years ago :: Jun 15, 2011 - 2:44PM #932
Rhohn Date Joined: Sep 23, 2009 Posts: 71	Guys, I just wanted to comment on how much fun I've been having now that we hit Epic level in our campaign at our local Library. With the recent nerf to Radiant Servant (which I had been running), my DM was gracious enough to let me switch Paragon paths. Since I'm a hammer warrior, and I can get Hand of Divine Guidance at Epic, I decided to totally commit my Avenger to the Hammer philosphy. I've got the Hammer of Judgement Paragon Path, Eternal Seeker epic destiny, and I'm using 2 hammers, a Knockback warhammer and a Dazzling Throwing hammer. I've got 2 Weapon Offense and Opening. I took Halo of Warding at Epic as well, with Hammering Iron. Add up the movement total for a non Oath of Enmity target that moves up next to me and gets hit! My DM was flabbergasted during our next to last session. It was awesome. I expect to be seeing a lot more creatures now that can't be pushed or slid, but still - its an awesome combo. I also took feats and powers that let me cause slowness, and knockdown any creatures that are slowed or immobilized. Having lots of fun here. Remember, to a Hammer Warrior everything else is a nail. PS I think just recently having watched "Thor" inspired me. :D
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2 years ago :: Sep 21, 2011 - 7:21AM #933
draconisorion Date Joined: Oct 8, 2009 Posts: 79	Hi all, I have been playing a Tiefling Avenger for awhile now. I haven't seen any Tiefling builds out there, but just "suggestions" they make good Avengers. Well mine does, but could he be better. Im still fairly new to 4e (been playing for about 15 months) and still learning all of the rules. We play LFR so everything I do has to be by those rules. I have been struggling the past few levels, and probably should have posted this build several levels ago seeking help and advice. I have recently rebuilt him having just leveled to 19. Many of the players I game with assist me at trying to get the "best" out of my build, but I really need to get some more help here. I am not big on doing the math stuff so not sure what my DPR comes out with and what is probably the best set up turns to get the most out of what I have, but as I said, he doesn't do too badly. Any critic and assistance is greatly appreciated to help me get the best I can, and where to go from here, I have never gotten a toon this close to epic and dont know where I should go. I have him as Radiant Servant, but didnt even realize they nerfed it abit ago, so is there a better PP that I should go as a Radiant build? Anyway, down to the meat (I apologize for the formatting below, I cant get it to come out from CB neat): ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== Morthos, level 19 Tiefling, Avenger, Radiant Servant Build: Isolating Avenger Avenger's Censure Option: Censure of Retribution Versatile Expertise Option: Versatile Expertise (Heavy Blade) Versatile Expertise Option: Versatile Expertise (Holy Symbol) Theme: Devil's Pawn FINAL ABILITY SCORES STR 9, CON 14, DEX 11, INT 23, WIS 21, CHA 14 STARTING ABILITY SCORES STR 8, CON 13, DEX 10, INT 16, WIS 16, CHA 11 AC: 34 Fort: 29 Ref: 31 Will: 31 HP: 136 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 34 TRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +14, Endurance +16, Perception +19, Religion +20 UNTRAINED SKILLS Arcana +15, Athletics +8, Bluff +13, Diplomacy +11, Dungeoneering +14, Heal +14, History +15, Insight +14, Intimidate +11, Nature +14, Stealth +11, Streetwise +11, Thievery +9 POWERS Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack Devil's Pawn Attack: Hellfire and Brimstone Tiefling Racial Power: Infernal Wrath Avenger Feature: Abjure Undead Avenger Feature: Divine Guidance Avenger Feature: Oath of Enmity Cleric Feature: Turn Undead Avenger Attack 1: Bond of Retribution Avenger Attack 1: Overwhelming Strike Avenger Utility 2: Righteous Pursuit Avenger Attack 3: Fury's Advance Avenger Attack 5: Menacing Presence Avenger Utility 6: Aspect of Agility Avenger Utility 10: Shielding Symbol Radiant Servant Attack 11: Solar Wrath Radiant Servant Utility 12: Healing Sun Avenger Attack 13: Crimson Stride Avenger Attack 15: Aspect of Fury Avenger Utility 16: Winds of the Astral Sea Avenger Attack 17: Warding Blade Avenger Attack 19: Vengeful Recovery FEATS Level 1: Weapon Proficiency (Fullblade) Level 2: Melee Training (Intelligence) Level 4: Unarmored Agility Level 6: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade) Level 8: Versatile Expertise Level 10: Divine Channeler (Cleric) Level 11: Painful Oath Level 12: Superior Will Level 14: Improved Defenses Level 16: Pervasive Light Level 18: Devastating Critical ITEMS Adventurer's Kit Holy Symbol Symbol of Divine Light +4 x1 War Ring x1 Ring of the Radiant Storm x1 Sunblade Fullblade +4 x1 Dawn Warrior Aarakocra Feather Armor +4 x1 Circlet of Arkhosia (paragon tier) Horned Helm (paragon tier) x1 Cloak of Translocation +3 x1 Belt of Vim (paragon tier) x1 Iron Armbands of Power (paragon tier) x1 Gauntlets of Blood (paragon tier) x1 Assault Boots Dice of Auspicious Fortune Bloodiron Fullblade +4 ====== End ======
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2 years ago :: Sep 22, 2011 - 7:23AM #934
draconisorion Date Joined: Oct 8, 2009 Posts: 79	Hmmm, I guess no one is watching this thread anymore. Really would be good to get some input from Auspex or Hasdru....but anyone would be great. I just want to make sure I am getting the best out of my Avenger as we are going into an extremely difficult LFR run (20th level) Neth 3-3 this weekend. Draco
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2 years ago :: Sep 26, 2011 - 5:09PM #935
Rhohn Date Joined: Sep 23, 2009 Posts: 71	Sep 22, 2011 -- 7:23AM, draconisorion wrote: Hmmm, I guess no one is watching this thread anymore. Really would be good to get some input from Auspex or Hasdru....but anyone would be great. I just want to make sure I am getting the best out of my Avenger as we are going into an extremely difficult LFR run (20th level) Neth 3-3 this weekend. Draco Just curious as to why you took Radiant Servant for a Paragon Pathway. You do know it was errata'ed so that just having Radiant weapons doesn't give you the 19-20 crit range. If you want a kick-butt cleric power that will totally ruin a Boss creature's day, then look at acquiring "Divine Castigation". HTHs.
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2 years ago :: Sep 26, 2011 - 5:13PM #936
draconisorion Date Joined: Oct 8, 2009 Posts: 79	Sep 26, 2011 -- 5:09PM, Rhohn wrote: Sep 22, 2011 -- 7:23AM, draconisorion wrote: Hmmm, I guess no one is watching this thread anymore. Really would be good to get some input from Auspex or Hasdru....but anyone would be great. I just want to make sure I am getting the best out of my Avenger as we are going into an extremely difficult LFR run (20th level) Neth 3-3 this weekend. Draco Just curious as to why you took Radiant Servant for a Paragon Pathway. You do know it was errata'ed so that just having Radiant weapons doesn't give you the 19-20 crit range. If you want a kick-butt cleric power that will totally ruin a Boss creature's day, then look at acquiring "Divine Castigation". HTHs. I had heard that it was errata'd, I just wasnt sure as to what the errata was an how it would impact my build...thats why I brought it here, for assistance. So I get to try him again in 2 weeks, and then after that I will called out of country for 2 months for work, so I really would like to give this guy a great showing before I can play again at the beginning of the year. Draco
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2 years ago :: Sep 26, 2011 - 5:26PM #937
Rhohn Date Joined: Sep 23, 2009 Posts: 71	Okay, I'd definitely swap out Radiant Servant for another Avenger Paragon Path. Look them over and see what suits your Avenger and playstyle. Be careful, some of them require certain Censure choices, so make sure your build qualifies. I'm not sure why you took melee training intelligence? The idea here is to empower your melee basic attack. One of the best ways to do this with an Avenger is worship someone like Ioun, take the feat Power Of SKill, and then you can always use Overwhelming Strike as an MBA. Much better. Grab a Siberys shard of radiance and add it to youf fullblade for a bit more damage as well. One of the best things you can do for your Avenger is try to garner just as many off-turn attacks as you can. For example Strikebacks gloves, and the Backlash tatoo. HTHs.
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2 years ago :: Sep 26, 2011 - 5:48PM #938
draconisorion Date Joined: Oct 8, 2009 Posts: 79	Thanks!
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2 years ago :: Nov 16, 2011 - 12:27AM #939
NullSheen Date Joined: Sep 12, 2008 Posts: 160	I really like Ig_Fat's build on post 500. My DM allows us to take melee training for free as a house rule. If this was the case would you still take Power of Skill or would you add another feat instead, if so what? Some of the ones i was thinking of are: Cunning Stalker Slashing Storm Also do people still take improved armour of faith now it does not scale? The Build for referance (sorry i dont know how to hide it) ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== Althaea Taint Slayer, level 30 Eladrin, Avenger, Zealous Assassin, Invincible Vanguard Avenger's Censure: Censure of Pursuit FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 18, Con 12, Dex 24, Int 14, Wis 25, Cha 10. STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 13, Con 10, Dex 15, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 8. AC: 47 Fort: 38 Reflex: 42 Will: 42 HP: 200 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 50 TRAINED SKILLS Endurance +21, Religion +23, Stealth +28, Acrobatics +28, Perception +28, Athletics +25 UNTRAINED SKILLS Arcana +19, Bluff +15, Diplomacy +15, Dungeoneering +22, Heal +22, History +19, Insight +23, Intimidate +15, Nature +22, Streetwise +15, Thievery +22 FEATS Level 1: Power of Skill Level 2: Eladrin Soldier Level 4: Battle Awareness Level 6: Invigorating Pursuit Level 8: Unarmored Agility Level 10: Spear Expertise Level 11: Polearm Gamble Level 12: Painful Oath Level 14: Fey Charge Level 16: Surprising Charge Level 18: Power Attack Level 20: Impaling Spear Level 21: Hand of Divine Guidance Level 22: Improved Armor of Faith Level 24: Hafted Defense Level 26: Robust Defenses Level 28: Hammer of Justice Level 30: Overrun Critical POWERS Avenger at-will 1: Overwhelming Strike Avenger at-will 1: Radiant Vengeance Avenger encounter 1: Whirlwind Charge Avenger daily 1: Aspect of Might Avenger utility 2: Distracting Flare Avenger encounter 3: Fury's Advance Avenger daily 5: Executioner's Cloak Avenger utility 6: Silver Shadow Avenger encounter 7: Relentless Stride Avenger daily 9: Temple of Shadow Avenger utility 10: Wings of Vengeance Avenger encounter 13: Fury's Advance (replaces Fury's Advance) Avenger daily 15: Temple of Brilliance (replaces Executioner's Cloak) Avenger utility 16: Astral Cloak Avenger encounter 17: Vengeful Parry (replaces Whirlwind Charge) Avenger daily 19: Temple of Respite (replaces Aspect of Might) Avenger utility 22: Battle Blessing Avenger encounter 23: Fury's Advance (replaces Fury's Advance) Avenger daily 25: Aspect of Death (replaces Temple of Shadow) Avenger encounter 27: Fury's Advance (replaces Fury's Advance) Avenger daily 29: Temple of Resolution (replaces Temple of Respite) ITEMS Gauntlets of Destruction (paragon tier), Boots of Adept Charging (heroic tier), Cloak of Translocation +6, Horned Helm (epic tier), Iron Armbands of Power (epic tier), Backlash Tattoo (heroic tier), Davros Elden's Defensive Step (heroic tier), Thundergod Greatspear +6, Temporal Starweave Armor +6, Symbol of Victory +5, Ring of Giants (paragon tier) (2) ====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======
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