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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 6:49AM
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Aug 16, 2007
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Races & Classes suggested that Warlocks don't "beg" for power like some sort of pitiful Cleric. Rather they take it, wrest it from whatever forces using cunning and charisma. A "pact" doesn't necessarily mean a "deal". It can be very one-sided.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 11:12AM
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^ HAHA. Nice.
That, and making a deal with a being isn't quite the same as worshipping it. Clerics are bolstering their deity through some form of worship (the foodstuffs of gods), while Warlocks are finding some powerful extraplanar creatures and goading their secrets from them.
It's kind of a throwback to class Witches and Warlocks (Warlock means oath-breaker). You're doing this arcane magic spellweaving by tapping into some demon's power instead of some studied formulae.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 1:47PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 13, 2007
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I want to make a "jack of fables" type warlock who just keeps making promises, and more promises to get away from the bad effects of previous promises, and so on for eternity. You only live once right?
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 2:24PM
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Date Joined:
Mar 14, 2008
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So, I'm sure this is probably the WORST and BEST place to ask. I really didn't like how the warlock overpowered games in 3.5. He could at will eldritch blast stuff over and over again, but wait! He could add fire or nausua to it. With the revamp, is there going to be more balance with the Warlock in this iteration?
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 2:45PM
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Jan 28, 2004
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So, I'm sure this is probably the WORST and BEST place to ask. I really didn't like how the warlock overpowered games in 3.5. He could at will eldritch blast stuff over and over again, but wait! He could add fire or nausua to it. With the revamp, is there going to be more balance with the Warlock in this iteration?
We don't actually have enough information about the new Warlock to answer your question. We can say, however, that the Warlock is completely different from the 3.5 Warlock in a mechanical sense. They still throw Eldritch Bolts...that's about it. (And those Eldritch Bolts no longer do fistfulls of d6 in damage)
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 3:01PM
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Mar 14, 2008
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well... it may be too early to say...
but YAY!!! *throws confetti in victory*
*waits patiently now...*
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 4:02PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 16, 2005
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Meh, this one really bugs me for some reason. They stole the "pact" and "vestige" terms from binder, but it looks like the warlock's choice is a one time deal, not my everyday versatility. I liked warlock as it was and the new one is probably pretty darn cool, but I wish he hadn't killed and looted my Binder in the process.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 4:17PM
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Oct 26, 2006
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Forcing a fiend to provide you with power would also be quite difficult as a level 0 character with no class yet.  But there's some cool stuff in here. I might use some of that even in my 3.5e campaign with no warlocks. :D
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 4:35PM
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Forcing a fiend to provide you with power would also be quite difficult as a level 0 character with no class yet.
Stories of demons or "The Devil" coming to earth and granting mortals power are as old as human oral history. Sometimes the power is given willingly, sometimes it is imposed on a person who doesn't want it and sometimes the mortal manages to trick the demon into parting with it. Any of those are great hooks for a 1st level Warlock.
A fae powersource could be similarly integrated. A fae trickster decides to give a human (elf/eldarin/dwarf) youth powers and watch the ensuing antics. A group of fairies challenge a human to a dancing contest/card game and the human wins, taking some of their power as a prize. Fae interact with humanoids in a lot of interesting ways, so it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something that fits your character.
Stars might be a little harder, but it's hard to speculate as it's currently rather ill-defined. Maybe "wish upon a star" takes on a slightly more concrete reality in the new edition.
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5 years ago ::
Mar 14, 2008 - 7:32PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 25, 2007
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Stories of demons or "The Devil" coming to earth and granting mortals power are as old as human oral history. Sometimes the power is given willingly, sometimes it is imposed on a person who doesn't want it and sometimes the mortal manages to trick the demon into parting with it. Any of those are great hooks for a 1st level Warlock.
A fae powersource could be similarly integrated. A fae trickster decides to give a human (elf/eldarin/dwarf) youth powers and watch the ensuing antics. A group of fairies challenge a human to a dancing contest/card game and the human wins, taking some of their power as a prize. Fae interact with humanoids in a lot of interesting ways, so it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something that fits your character.
Stars might be a little harder, but it's hard to speculate as it's currently rather ill-defined. Maybe "wish upon a star" takes on a slightly more concrete reality in the new edition.
Doesn't the "vestige" one deal with spirits and/or the dead? You could easily say your character is tapping into the power of said spirit to put them to rest, they grant you the power, you go off and try to put their restless soul to peace. Like, say, going to complete the task that they left unfinished, or right some great wrong the claimed the lives of their whole family or something.
I'll probably stick with Vestige and Feywild with all of my Warlock's. I know better then to make a deal with a Devil, and as crazy as I am, I'm not crazy enough to take on the Stars. Might toy around with the Shadowfell though...
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