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Switch to Forum Live View Looking for a good paladin example (TV/Movie)
4 years ago  ::  Mar 13, 2009 - 10:09PM #121
Salla
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That Blasted Somoflange wrote:

Hmm.. While I agree with Optimus Prime or Primal as the case may be, I'm also going to throw out Dinobot


Dinobot is a fine example of 'good is not nice'. I wouldn't file him as LG, though, as he was more than a little deceptive and underhanded on multiple occassions. Give him a god of battle rather than honor (Kord, perhaps, or with his line 'I only know one way to deal with my enemies --- BRUTALLY', Bane), and I think he's good to go.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 14, 2009 - 5:47AM #122
Raz_Fox
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baneofelves wrote:

Hank is lawful stupid sometimes, but he always realizes his error and straightens up his ways. If he always knew what the right thing to do was, the character would be dull.


You know you live in Texas when: You see mention of a "lawful stupid" Hank who tries to be Lawful Good, and you immediately think that it's talking about Hank the Cowdog.

Come to think of it, Hank would be a very interesting character to emulate. A coward and a Lord Error Prone - but one that actually believes in the Law, and does his inept best to do what's right.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 14, 2009 - 4:57PM #123
Drackthor
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I'm not sure if a 10-year old of 2009 would be familiar with it, as there might be a few years gap too large, but the Captain of Mulan's regiment in the disney movie, Mulan, seems to me to be a fairly good example of a paladin that is actually human. He's proud to be promoted, can occasionally lose his temper, but at his core does what he does because he believes it will help his family and country.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 14, 2009 - 5:34PM #124
Derren_S.
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What most people here forget is that 4E paladins have no alignment restrictions anymore.
The 4E paladin is not a "knight in shining armour", but a religious fanatic who fights for his faith.
I can think of various grooups in real life who fit that concept, but naming them will likely cause a lot of flames.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2009 - 9:59AM #125
DSCrankshaw
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Derren S. wrote:

What most people here forget is that 4E paladins have no alignment restrictions anymore.
The 4E paladin is not a "knight in shining armour", but a religious fanatic who fights for his faith.
I can think of various grooups in real life who fit that concept, but naming them will likely cause a lot of flames.


There's nothing that requires them to be fanatics. They are simply the militant arm of religions which need militant arms, considering that they live in a world filled with creatures who intend to wipe them and their adherents from existence. They are expected to be exemplars of their faith and willing to fight for what they believe, but that in itself does not make them fanatics.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2009 - 10:01AM #126
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DSCrankshaw wrote:

There's nothing that requires them to be fanatics. They are simply the militant arm of religions which need militant arms, considering that they live in a world filled with creatures who intend to wipe them and their adherents from existence. They are expected to be exemplars of their faith and willing to fight for what they believe, but that in itself does not make them fanatics.


If you remove the bias from his post, he meant that in 4E, Paladins aren't called to be Lawful Good, so there are many other character types that could be used as a good paladin example.

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204.1b Some effects change an object’s card type, supertype, or subtype but specify that the object retains a prior card type, supertype, or subtype. In such cases, all the object’s prior card types, supertypes, and subtypes are retained. This rule applies to effects that use the phrase “in addition to its types” or that state that something is “still a [card type].” Some effects state that an object becomes an “artifact creature”; these effects also allow the object to retain all of its prior card types and subtypes.

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We eventually decided not to change this template, because players are used to “becomes an artifact creature,” and like it much better.

Players were used to Combat on the Stack, but you got rid of that because it was unintuitive. The only phrase needed is "in addition to its types"; the others are misleading and unintuitive.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 15, 2009 - 1:21PM #127
Drackthor
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crazysamaritan wrote:

If you remove the bias from his post


I'm thinking it would look like

What most people here forget is that 4E paladins have no alignment restrictions anymore.


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4 years ago  ::  Mar 17, 2009 - 7:46PM #128
Vapthorne
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Chells wrote:

My son is starting a paladin but is having a hard time coming up with personality for his character. Can anyone think of a good example of a paladin type character from a TV show or movie. I figured if he could watch the show/movie it might help him shape a personality for his character. Keep in mind he's only 11 so I'd rather not have anything too adult. I was thinking there was probably a good anime example but it is not my genre.


I think Goliath from Gargoyles is a good example.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 18, 2009 - 4:23AM #129
Stormbrand
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Vapthorne wrote:

I think Goliath from Gargoyles is a good example.


He's an excellent example. He pretty much stays righteous good and true the entire time.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 18, 2009 - 10:50AM #130
jseipp
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Fenris_Lathiin wrote:

Batman from Batman the Animated Series/Justice League/Justice League Unlimited- More than even Superman (in the context of the DCAU), Batman is the pinnacle of morality. He doesn't compromise his principals, he never gives up on people and in a choice between doing two evils, he always find a third option. Always. Check out the episode of Justice League Unlimited "Epilogue," where he's given a situation where he has to kill a teenager who's dying of a brain aneurysm because her powers are psionic in nature (and because she's very, very ****** off at the government entity that gave her her powers, which led to the aneurysm), and the aneurysm will cause severe psionic backlash and kill a city. Batman manages to prevent all of this just by holding her hand and staying with her until she died. That's right: by being a compassionate soul and easing the pain of a dying girl by just giving her some comfort as she died, he prevented her powers from going nova. That's what a Paladin would do.


GREAT example!

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