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4 years ago ::
Feb 19, 2009 - 10:31PM
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Not that I like Lancelot but Gawain as an example of a paladin, the man killed his own mother, and was even more of a brute then Lancelot, who at least had the decency to be ashamed of himself.
Well, not to get into the validity of certain texts over others when it comes to Arthurian legend... but to clarify, I refer to the Vulgate texts of Gawain, in which he was specifically written as "the perfect knight to which all others are compared."
It wasnt until the French Post-Vulgate Romances that he was transformed into an Anti-hero, mostly as anti-British propaganda. :P
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4 years ago ::
Feb 19, 2009 - 10:53PM
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I'll fourth (fifth?) Optimus Prime. "Freedom Is The Right of All Sentient Beings" indeed (yes, the capitals are necessary). I feel bad for not including him in the first place.
A possible example: Carrot Ironfounderson from Discworld- I know the OP asked for TV/Movie examples, but Carrot is too good not to point out (or is he?). Carrot always does the right thing and is a huge proponent of law. He also seem to genuinely care about people and he loves people individually. I think his conversation with Vetinari at the end of Men at Arms is very telling of Carrot's character and how he sees himself as a person and a leader of men. I think when he said he could command the Watch, but wouldn't because he wanted people to follow the law because it was the right thing, and not because they wanted to follow him.
For the record, I think Carrot is my favorite possible lost heir heroes because of his humanist streak. Maybe that's why I love Terry Pratchett so much.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 19, 2009 - 11:23PM
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Since anime is an option, I highly recommend Rurouni Kenshin. The main character (Kenshin) is a great example of a paladin's personality imo.
Although, I should probably tell you to make sure you look at the series and not the OVA. In the series Kenshin is redeeming himself for past sins, the OVA shows you those past sins and I wouldnt recommend it for an 11 year old (I'm sure I wasn't much older than 11 when I first discovered the series).
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4 years ago ::
Feb 19, 2009 - 11:28PM
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What, not one vote for Captain America? He's already got a great looking shield - - :p
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4 years ago ::
Feb 20, 2009 - 3:06AM
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(Not talking about the Hulk here)
Are you watching the same show I stopped watching, because of the poor moral choices he was making? (without consequence, I may add, so he never "learned" from those mistakes)
The first season, okay. The second season? Mostly. After that? Toss the scriptwriters out the window 
Gotta agree with ya. I've watched Smallville for years, just out of habit. I haven't really taken an interest in anything past season 3.
Unless he's hopped up on red kryptonite though, I think Clark Kent is a solid paladin archtype-- especially in the first few years, as you say  .
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4 years ago ::
Feb 20, 2009 - 4:53AM
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I'll Sixth Optimus. But keep locke in mind.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 20, 2009 - 6:24AM
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I strongly agree with John Locke as a paladin. He's undeniably dedicated to a cause that is bigger than he is. He's willing to sacrifice himself and others in order to serve the needs of that higher cause. He makes mistakes along the way and becomes mildly irritating because of his drive, but all of those things are done in service of "the good."
Angel as a paladin is something I've thought a bit about as well. He's a little more of the darker side of paladinism, but certainly a "hero with a cause" who makes mistakes but does it with the best in mind. The flagellating paladin (minus the brooding) is a fun paladin to play.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 20, 2009 - 6:58AM
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Oh! Vash the Stampede from Trigun
Definitely.
Also Parsifal, from the Arthurian legends.
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4 years ago ::
Feb 20, 2009 - 7:02AM
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Not that I like Lancelot but Gawain as an example of a paladin, the man killed his own mother, and was even more of a brute then Lancelot, who at least had the decency to be ashamed of himself.
In Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival, Parzival, the "holy fool" is chaste (in the sense of faithful, he is actually faithfully married by the middle of the book) is contrasted with Sir Gawan (Gawain), who, though basically a nice guy, has a thing for the ladies, and a girlfriend in every castle. Gawan isn't portrayed as a brute however, but the book only covers part of the period. (And the continental version of the Grailquest is very different than Mallory's.)
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4 years ago ::
Feb 20, 2009 - 7:06AM
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I strongly agree with John Locke as a paladin.
I would actually vote for David Hume myself. I see Locke as more of a ...
Oh, you didn't mean the British philosopher?
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