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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 3:28PM #141
abraham
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How about the campy version of batman?
don't forget gizmo from "gremlins" & the dracula from "mini monsters".(the comic not the tv special)
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 8:51PM #142
Drackthor
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abraham wrote:

How about the campy version of batman?
don't forget gizmo from "gremlins" & the dracula from "mini monsters".(the comic not the tv special)


The campy version is just the "Good is Dumb" paladin.

Comic book, Frank Miller or Christopher Nolan Batman is just as good a Paladin, maybe better because he actually has things to struggle with besides this week's villain.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 9:45PM #143
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Drackthor wrote:

The campy version is just the "Good is Dumb" paladin.

Comic book, Frank Miller or Christopher Nolan Batman is just as good a Paladin, maybe better because he actually has things to struggle with besides this week's villain.


Dunno "the Dracula", but Gizmo is a "Combat Pragmatist" at best, because we do not see enough of the character. Those who read the book are aware that Gizmo is supposed to be "without sin", but the movies lack a moral imperative for the character.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 18, 2009 - 4:39AM #144
Loed_Cromar
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2009
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Escef wrote:

Silverbolt (though he's a bit hammed up).


Only just a little:D

1. The Clive Owen Arthur [King Arthur]
2. Charles Xavier
3. Magneto
4. Sergeant Saunders [Combat]
5. Jack the Samurai [Funny thing is back in the early 80’s I had a D&D Paladin named Jack that became a Samurai]

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2009 - 11:42AM #145
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Elliot Ness in Kevin Costner's Untouchables is the quintessential modern Lawful Good Paladin.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2009 - 11:46AM #146
abraham
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From British cartoons there are danger mouse,bananaman & count duckula.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2009 - 9:48AM #147
Fenris_Lathiin
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dallan007 wrote:

Here's an odd example of a mean paladin: Severus Snape.

He's not a perfect paladin but he has paladinesque qualities.

1. He has a code of loyalty to Dumbledore and the Order of the Phoenix, as well as to the memory of Lily Potter.

2. He is uncompromising in his standards.

3. He is fearless.

Granted, Snape broke a few of his own rules, but he's a good example of a bad person who 'changed alignments' to Lawful Good.


I'd grant Snape Paladin status, and I'd say he's Lawful, but I wouldn't say he's ever been Lawful Good. He undertakes too many morally ambiguous actions to be anything but Lawful Neutral. Maybe if you've got high standards, you could call him Heroic Evil (my term for any Evil character who is on the side of the angels), but I don't think Snape could be considered evil.

A good Lawful Evil example of a Paladin is Magneto. He never compromises, fears nothing and he will fight unswervingly for his cause. The problem is that he's a murderer, possibly in favor of genocide (often depending on the writer) and has no problem ruling his own people with an iron fist.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 3:28PM #148
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Michael Carpenter from the Harry Dresden books is a great example of a paladin. He first appears in the volume Grave Peril.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 4:39PM #149
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I suggest that Severus Snape is an Unaligned Paladin of Ioun. A Seeker of Knowledge, Severus Snape has come to believe in the utter power of the mind over everything else. He has nothing but contempt for those that do not maximize knowledge as their weapon.

He is deeply ashamed of the emotional ties he holds to the world and keeps those emotional ties secret almost to the exclusion of all else. His opposition of Voldemort is incidental. His true passion is knowledge and skill.
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2009 - 7:49PM #150
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Yes, but can he fight with a sword, mace or hammer?
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