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4 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2009 - 6:25AM #31
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Chiba_Monkey wrote:

More correctly, from the entire Fallout series. The BoS has been in the games since Fallout, although their presence was somewhat diminished in Fallout 2


I haven't been able to put Fallout 3 down since I bought it a couple of weeks ago . It's the only game I've played of the series.

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Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart (cookie for the reference).


The first time I remember seeing a reference to this order of knighthood was in the Complete Paladin's Handbook (a supplement for AD&D 2nd edition). I also seem to remember there was a quest in Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn involving a member of the Radiant Heart (Keldorn, I believe). Been a few years since I last played that game.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2009 - 2:13PM #32
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Trägern - "In Grace, take up thy standard, brother, and join us at the Wall"

This should be unusual, since it is in German. It means Bearers, as in standard bearers. These men carried Lances into battle,each bearing the standard of a good god. The first of them were granted the enchanted Lances by the gods they each represented. It was traditional for new members to also enchant a Lance as their primary weapon, since it could also act as a Standard to Rally the Troops. While this tradition remains, it has lapsed recently and now members also enchant other melee weapons as well.

As a PP, this could allow Warlords, fighters, swordmages and Paladins. Members of this PP could not only learn an enchant ritual, but also design their own standard, and gain access to a few Leader powers to rally the troops.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2009 - 3:41PM #33
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i would allow swordmages as well
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 20, 2009 - 8:26PM #34
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Artifact wrote:

I haven't been able to put Fallout 3 down since I bought it a couple of weeks ago . It's the only game I've played of the series.


You should go back and play the others, more RPG that 3 was.


The first time I remember seeing a reference to this order of knighthood was in the Complete Paladin's Handbook (a supplement for AD&D 2nd edition). I also seem to remember there was a quest in Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn involving a member of the Radiant Heart (Keldorn, I believe). Been a few years since I last played that game.

Do I get a cookie :P?


Yes, you do. the order comes from BG2: Shadows of Amn

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 21, 2009 - 9:40PM #35
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Knights of the Round Table

what? someone had to say it.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 3:31PM #36
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Drackthor wrote:



  • Every knight, upon ascending to a certain rank (or level, in PC case), is tasked with enchanting and naming his weapon.

  • The order is dedicated to no single good deity, but is supportive of all of them. The true focus of the order, first and foremost, is the cause of Good as a whole.

  • The order was first started to repel an invading army from the city in which the order started.

  • The original city in which the order formed is it's headquarters, but it has expanded to many different branches in different cities across the continent.
  • It is ruled by a council of six and one Lord Protector, the Protector is essentially the Chairman of the council.

  • Originally, the leader was a paladin of great power and pure heart that took six candidates to train, each to become a paragon of righteousness.

  • It is customary for each Knight, at one point in their career, to donate a sizeable sum of gold to the order to be used on training, food, arms, armor, and donated to those in need.

  • It has an opposed-but-not-hostile faction, Strength of Arms, a mercenary group that has no qualms on taking the 'dirty' jobs, and the two groups have on rare occasion run into eachother in the field.

  • It has an ally faction, The Righteous Flame, an order of spellcasters of all races and creed, that are like the Order in that they are dedicated to the cause of Good.


The origin of the order reminds me of Broadsword, by Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull)

Ian Anderson]I see a dark sail on the horizon set under a black
cloud that hides the sun.

Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding.
Bring me my cross of gold as a talisman.
Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing.
Take women and children and bed them down.

Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding.
Bring me my cross of gold as a talisman.
Bless with a hard heart those who surround me.
Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
Put our backs to the north wind. Hold fast by the river.
Sweet memories to drive us on for the motherland.


Cribbing from this, I would suggest that the Lord Protector wields the sword of the original leader, which grants a Wisdom bonus. 4e doesn't have a broadsword, but I have seen the term used historically to refer to a larger than usual sword, so it could be either long or bastrd. The golden talisman, the other great relic of the order, would create a zone which gives a bonus against fear effects, and maybe saving throws. If you don't want to use a symbol tied to a RL religion, replace cross with something else. I would suggest "shield", which ties in with the equipage of a protecting paladin, and with the defensive origins of the order. Going with this, "Knights/Order of the Golden Shield" could work, although many other good names have been sug wrote:

I see a dark sail on the horizon set under a black
cloud that hides the sun.

Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding.
Bring me my cross of gold as a talisman.
Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing.
Take women and children and bed them down.

Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding.
Bring me my cross of gold as a talisman.
Bless with a hard heart those who surround me.
Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
Put our backs to the north wind. Hold fast by the river.
Sweet memories to drive us on for the motherland.[/quote]
Cribbing from this, I would suggest that the Lord Protector wields the sword of the original leader, which grants a Wisdom bonus. 4e doesn't have a broadsword, but I have seen the term used historically to refer to a larger than usual sword, so it could be either long or bastrd. The golden talisman, the other great relic of the order, would create a zone which gives a bonus against fear effects, and maybe saving throws. If you don't want to use a symbol tied to a RL religion, replace cross with something else. I would suggest "shield", which ties in with the equipage of a protecting paladin, and with the defensive origins of the order. Going with this, "Knights/Order of the Golden Shield" could work, although many other good names have been suggested.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 4:16PM #37
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angelus_obscura wrote:

Knights of the Round Table

what? someone had to say it.


i see watchu did thar


how about.. ahem. drum roll please..


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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 4:58PM #38
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UnknownCorrespondent wrote:

4e doesn't have a broadsword, but I have seen the term used historically to refer to a larger than usual sword, so it could be either long or bastrd.


Ah ah ah! 4e DOES have a broadsword. It can be found in the section on weapons in Adventurer's Vault.

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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 5:07PM #39
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Knights of the Fertile Camel.
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4 years ago  ::  Mar 22, 2009 - 5:55PM #40
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Zousha_Omenohu wrote:

Ah ah ah! 4e DOES have a broadsword. It can be found in the section on weapons in Adventurer's Vault.


Okay, you caught me. AV is one book I haven't looked very much at. What stats does it have now? In 1e&2e it had a slightly shorter but broader blade than a longsword, and did 2d4 vs Small and Medium opponents and 1d6+1 vs Large, while the longsword did 1d8/1d12.

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