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5 years ago  ::  Jul 13, 2008 - 3:21PM #21
XiahouXu
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Zigged, I'm afraid to admit that I've never heard of Jojo before...

Should I have?
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 13, 2008 - 8:38PM #22
zigged
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if your an anime or manga fan then maybe you should check out jojos bizarre adventure its a cult classic. the main characters and baddies have powers very simaler to that warlock you described except the demon is called a stand and is an extension of the wielder rather than an external entity. each stand has different powers making for some insane battles: the main baddie dio can stop time for a few seconds at a time, theres a guy who can shape change, another guy has a small stand that looks like a fly and cuts off peoples tongues ect; range and power are a trade off the less powerful your stand the further it can stray from you its just all around a great read (theres a couple of movies as well) did I mention the baddie is a vampire... no, well he put on an egyption mask and spikes plunged into his brain activating a latent potential in humans

ya its kinda nutz beyond what I described here look it up and check it out
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2008 - 12:39AM #23
Moosh_Nailo
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ToastedAmphibian wrote:

:{ Im not the original poster, so i cannot say for sure but, I think you guys are missing the point. I dont belive he is looking for "guns" as in game items or justifications for why a guy with guns has eldretch magic. I think his goal here is to take the warlock, strip off every bit of fluff, and then justify all the mechanics in a manner similiar to "Gunslinger does this with his guns"


Exactly! Thanks for putting it into words better than I was able to explain. I want it to be a warlock, I don't really want new items or stuff, but I want it to be a gunslinger.

zigged wrote:

some other gunslingerish fluff: dreadstar becomes a shot in the foot, flames of phlegos is a bullet that travels so fast it melts into molten metal before hitting your foe, darkones own luck works as is. mire of the mind is a bullet that explodes in a flash of light, iron spike of dis pins his shadow or something, shielding shades = him shooting down projectiles or deflecting a blade, for those things that stick around like tendrils of thurbrin think leech seed lol, for things like spiteful darts and harrowstorm your blowin him off his feet, thirteen baleful stars is thirteen bullets, hellfire curse is a simple gunshot, doom of delban is a shot that kicks like a mule
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just dont read the flavor and pay no mind to the name, look at the effect and think what would my guy do to cause that


Also great. I hadn't even thought of having it work in ways like that, dread star being a foot shot and that kinda thing! I'm gonna re-read the powers and see what I can do.

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5 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2008 - 7:34PM #24
Moosh_Nailo
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I wrote up some descriptions for Gunslinger's powers up to level 3 here. For now, at least, I figure the character as a starlock. What do yous think?

And now to deal with the patron. In Stephen King's The Gunslinger, Gunslingers come from an order of sorts, with formal training. In Afro Samurai, Justice feels it is his destiny to attain ultimate power and forcefully put an end to violence and killing. I think a mix of training and ridiculous personal drive would be the main forces that turned Gunslinger into what he is today. I'm just not sure how to put some lovecraftian entity into the mix as a patron (lovecraftian is how I want to interpret the starlock stuff with this character). Any suggestions? Specifically wondering about how he would have initially contacted/been contacted by the patron.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2008 - 7:45PM #25
zigged
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cool. the biggest thing I got outta it was the rune incribed bullet which is an excelent idea for a magical gunslinger I think ill steal it and make rune inscribed sling ammo .
you should watch "wanted" if you havent already, could provide for some fantastical inspiration (shootin curve bullets and such)
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2008 - 7:58PM #26
Moosh_Nailo
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Thats the one with Morgan Freeman and Jolie, right?
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2008 - 8:00PM #27
zigged
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yep
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 14, 2008 - 10:14PM #28
Moosh_Nailo
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Another one I thought of for Starbreath Shot is that he actually fires off a baby star (starbirth shot?), or a chunk of star-matter, or something.

And then for Heavens' Step (name needs work), I'm thinking something like a rift opening above Gunslinger, a giant cthulu-esque appendage reaching through almost caressingly, and pulling the warlock through the rift, only to deposit him back in a nearby spot.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2008 - 2:02PM #29
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Eldritch blast already counts as a basic ranged attack. Definately take the quickdraw feat also gives +2 to initiative checks. LOTS of wands/rods and only use ranged weapons that are free load (handcrossbow and sling). Fluff of your implements is easy, you should be customizing the look anyway. If you play a half elf you could get some additional razzle dazzle from multiclass option there. A first lvl 1/2 elf w/ one multi feat has TWO extra encounter powers. The rogue at wills are pretty sweet but wizard blasty spells could fit nicely with your wands and rods.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2008 - 2:59PM #30
Moosh_Nailo
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Yep, pretty sure I need quickdraw. Right now, Gunslinger is written up as a 3rd level starlock. His guns, at the moment, work with his rod of corruption and his rod of dark reward.
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