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5 years ago  ::  Nov 30, 2008 - 11:57PM #11
Salla
Date Joined: Apr 3, 2003
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Baboonicles wrote:

To me a brutal scoundrel rogue seems very against type for an Eladrin. The art of the alley thug isn't something they fit with.


Oooh, good point. Or even a Ruthless Ruffian ... "You want nature? Fine, here's a club I made out of an oak tree." *WHACK!*

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 12:14AM #12
Novacat
Date Joined: Mar 29, 2005
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Salla wrote:

Oooh, good point. Or even a Ruthless Ruffian ... "You want nature? Fine, here's a club I made out of an oak tree." *WHACK!*


You seem to be confusing the thematic elements of eladrin and elves. Elves are about nature and elf-ishness, while eladrin are about magic and high-society. While they are both fey, elves are more flamboyantly fey-like, while eladrin are more regal and dignified.

While an eladrin warlock works out mechanically pretty well, it's never really sat well with me as something that should be the norm. Eladrin are nothing if not renown for their patience, so the "easy road to magic" doesn't seem like something that would appeal to most eladrin, even if they have a natural gift for it. So at least to me, that seems to be playing against type thematically, even if it's not so bad mechanically.

Mechanically, cleric would probably be the least optimal choice for an eladrin, since they do not benefit from DEX or INT at all (unless you intentionally forgo heavy armor). This may be equally disadvantageous to the paladin, but paladin seems like a class that would have plenty of eladrin in its ranks, so it isn't "playing against type" as much.

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 1:46AM #13
Proin
Date Joined: Sep 7, 2008
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Novacat wrote:

While an eladrin warlock works out mechanically pretty well, it's never really sat well with me as something that should be the norm. Eladrin are nothing if not renown for their patience, so the "easy road to magic" doesn't seem like something that would appeal to most eladrin, even if they have a natural gift for it. So at least to me, that seems to be playing against type thematically, even if it's not so bad mechanically.


Depends how you play it. My feypact eladrin warlock inherited her power as part of an eons long accumulation of family magic. She made a pact with her ancestors, if you will. Which, imo, makes perfect sense thematically (Xanatos Gambit, anyone?)

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 4:31AM #14
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Those are the three which come to mind for me.
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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 11:55AM #15
Sier_laBeguileuse
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sigil_beguiler wrote:

Hmm... I would say Paladin and Clerics are the least Eladrin-esque as well.


Fluff wise, eladrin paladin makes more sense than an elf to me... but crunch wise, it's hard to justify not getting a bump to ANY of your class stats...

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 12:16PM #16
StealthMarmot
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Ranger. I imagine the Eladrin consider anything with dirt on it to be abhorrent and to nearly be brought to tears when they don't get their morning tea, much less living off the land and sleeping on a rock.

You know, like the English.
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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 12:42PM #17
Duskweaver
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Cleric of Gruumsh.
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5 years ago  ::  Dec 01, 2008 - 6:07PM #18
Proin
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StealthMarmot wrote:

Ranger. I imagine the Eladrin consider anything with dirt on it to be abhorrent and to nearly be brought to tears when they don't get their morning tea, much less living off the land and sleeping on a rock.

You know, like the English.


Except there are paragon paths specifically designed for eladrin rangers.

Fluff wise eladrin are least likely to be dark-pact, star-pact or infernal-pact warlocks or barbarians.

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2008 - 2:33PM #19
Sier_laBeguileuse
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Proin wrote:

Except there are paragon paths specifically designed for eladrin rangers.

Fluff wise eladrin are least likely to be dark-pact, star-pact or infernal-pact warlocks or barbarians.


Star pact good make sense, I think.

Barbarian is definitely the last thing eladrin make sense as. Ruthless Ruffian rogue or infernal warlock are definitely odd as well.

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4 years ago  ::  Dec 30, 2008 - 6:43PM #20
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I have a hard time seeing an eladrin with the personality feature "I hate magic and want a mundane-only world".
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