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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 2:19PM
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I think newness has something to do with it. Though altered a little, we've seen most of the deities before. Correllon (Larethean), Kord, Bahamut, etc.. The Raven Queen, AFAIK, is new to 4e. So is having an 'unaligned' deity. Plus, she's a cool goth death goddess (just look at her Shadar-Kai followers - 'nuf said). And, face it, her Channel Divinity Feat is one of the better ones, and is available to both paladins and clerics. Finally, paladins no longer have to be good.
So, you want to play an edgy, non-good paladin, you look at the gods, one of 'em's pretty cool, then you look at the feats and the deal is sealed: the Raven Queen it is.
Yep, in our group, we have a Paladin of the Raven Queen. We also have a Cleric of Mellora. Other deities revered include Avandara, Erathis, and Ioun.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 2:58PM
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I could never worship Kelemvor. I read the Avatar trilogy back in the day and he just annoyed me. Whiney were-panther fighter with a silly curse lucks into being the god of death. Of course, I didn't really like any of the characters from that series, except maybe Cyric and once he became a god he also became very uninteresting.
My main LFR character is a Paladin of the RQ. From a optimization point of view, I chose her because her CD feat is better. My whole purpose is to take damage and stay up, so that helps. From a roleplay point of view, I spent most of my early career in Aglarond fighting undead and I despise them. I have no problem with death, as I have seen more than my share. I also tend to the dying, carry out their (reasonable) last requests, and attempt to properly inter bodies that I find.
From all the emo/goth ranting, it seems some people just have pent-up issues with emo/goth types and are letting that color the image of a diety that isn't really all that different from Kelemvor. Except that she never appeared as a crappy character in a crappy book.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 3:18PM
#43
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Apr 20, 2007
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I'm surprised there aren't more paladins of Moradin out there. According to the Paladin's Handbook his CD feat is the best of the bunch.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 4:24PM
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I could never worship Kelemvor. I read the Avatar trilogy back in the day and he just annoyed me. Whiney were-panther fighter with a silly curse lucks into being the god of death. Of course, I didn't really like any of the characters from that series, except maybe Cyric and once he became a god he also became very uninteresting.
yeah... I haven't read that series. It's very quickly going on my "never read" list.
My main LFR character is a Paladin of the RQ. From a optimization point of view, I chose her because her CD feat is better. My whole purpose is to take damage and stay up, so that helps. From a roleplay point of view, I spent most of my early career in Aglarond fighting undead and I despise them. I have no problem with death, as I have seen more than my share. I also tend to the dying, carry out their (reasonable) last requests, and attempt to properly inter bodies that I find.
RQ doesn't exist in the Realms, I'm surprised the LFR let you. And Kelemvor is so putting your character in the Wall of the Faithless just to spite you.
And I'd think you'd go Kelemvorite with Doomguide for undead hunting flavor.
From all the emo/goth ranting, it seems some people just have pent-up issues with emo/goth types and are letting that color the image of a diety that isn't really all that different from Kelemvor. Except that she never appeared as a crappy character in a crappy book.
No, I'm letting the image of her major racial followers color my image of her. The shadar-kai practice scarification which is literally the act of cutting themselves.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 4:34PM
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Apr 14, 2007
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No, I'm letting the image of her major racial followers color my image of her. The shadar-kai practice scarification which is literally the act of cutting themselves.
Sooo... Berzerkers are emo-kids?
That is how I run my Shadar-Kai, they are the generals and soldiers of the Raven Queen. As such, they have commonly become generals and advisors for armies facing undead.
They are also front-line soldiers, who literally don't care about their own physical limitations/safety. You can ram a sword through their chest and they'll just laugh and cut off your head.
Which also amps up the Celtic-feel of the Raven Queen, since Celtic Berzerkers did actually worship Morrigan prior to battle.
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 4:53PM
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Sooo... Berzerkers are emo-kids?
Shadar-kai ones are.
That is how I run my Shadar-Kai, they are the generals and soldiers of the Raven Queen. As such, they have commonly become generals and advisors for armies facing undead.
And listen to emo-music and cut themselves in their free time.
They are also front-line soldiers, who literally don't care about their own physical limitations/safety. You can ram a sword through their chest and they'll just laugh and cut off your head.
Yes, because they're emo and hate their life.
Which also amps up the Celtic-feel of the Raven Queen, since Celtic Berzerkers did actually worship Morrigan prior to battle.
no, everything you've said just makes them more emo.
(I really hope everyone understands that I'm joking)
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 4:59PM
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You can ram a sword through their chest and they'll just laugh and cut off your head.
Is it even physically possible to laugh with a sword rammed through your chest? 
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 5:03PM
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Is it even physically possible to laugh with a sword rammed through your chest?
Smile then :P
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 6:04PM
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Is it even physically possible to laugh with a sword rammed through your chest?
If it somehow misses your vital bits, sure, why not?
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5 years ago ::
Oct 21, 2008 - 6:07PM
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Date Joined:
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First thing I thought when I found out that Paladins have no alignment restrictions....
"oh, DUDE, I am SO making a Chaotic Good Paladin who uses the raw power of hotblooded yelling to triumph over his foes... It'll be AWESOME!"
and then I made a charisma based Paladin of Avandra who travels the lands uprooting evil and making speeches about JUSTICE.
However, the raven queen's appeal is in her stability. Death will never end. If good or evil kill each other off, what will they end up doing all day? I have a Paladin of the RAven Queen in my group, who's had to make a major sacrifice, and learned that Death is not always bad. It's just ...the end.
Also, she's great if you want to be a vampire hunter.
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