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5 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2008 - 10:10PM
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I'm thinking of making a Tiefling Rogue, my question, concerns the tail. It says they have a 4-5 foot long nonprehensile tail. So I'm assuming they wouldn't be able to strap a dagger to the end of their tail, and attack with it, due to lack of control to that extent, but they would be able to move it and unsheath it?
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5 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2008 - 10:30PM
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Jan 15, 2008
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The key word is nonprehensile. It's more like a lizard's than a monkey's. So I don't think they'd be able to do anything as complicated as sheathing a dagger.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2008 - 10:35PM
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Ah, I was wondering because in the Monster Manual, there is a picture of a tiefling under "Tiefling" with a dagger on its tail. It also shows a prehensile tail in my eyes. Would the tiefling atleast be able to flick the tail upwards to unsheath the dagger though? The thing I'm wondering, is having the shortsword on his waist sheathed, and 5 daggers in various locations, with the one on the tail as well.
If possible, I was thinking it would be possible to whip the dagger around, either to attack with it or draw it.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2008 - 10:54PM
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The tail would be a fine place to strap a dagger, but you wouldn't be able to attack with it. From the description in the PHB, you'd lack the necessary motor control (and probably the strength).
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5 years ago ::
Jul 01, 2008 - 11:11PM
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Alright thanks. Atleast that is one plan I can use, heh. Possibly walk up into non-hostile territory, sneak my tail up my cloak, grab the dagger, and get a surprise sneak attack.... Would be interesting :D
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5 years ago ::
Jul 02, 2008 - 4:37PM
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Hmm...well, bend me over and call me Cheney...the Tiefling in the MM actually DOES have a weapon-like blade strapped to its tail! I never noticed that. It looks like something specifically crafted for use by a tail, also. Seems like the artists didn't get the memo on nonprehensile. I'd go with the rules and disregard the art as just another picture that's too cool for the rules.
Hmm...or perhaps they're planning a feat later that would allow tail-weapon use?
Nah...it's just art.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 02, 2008 - 8:22PM
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Possibly. Yeah, I'd go with it was just for a good concept art that "looks cool".
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5 years ago ::
Jul 02, 2008 - 8:28PM
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If you DO make a tiefling rogue, pray to whatever god you believe in you never have to make a disguise check.
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5 years ago ::
Jul 02, 2008 - 9:03PM
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Actually, I couldn't find the Disguise check.....
And thats what Hat of Disguise was always for, too bad I can't find it in the PHB :P
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5 years ago ::
Jul 02, 2008 - 9:50PM
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Dec 29, 2007
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Non-prehensile. This means that the tail can not be used to grasp anything. Grip, grab, take, hold; are all options not allowed. However, I would suggest that the art in the MM is not a far stretch; as an item strapped to the tail is none of the above.
I guess one only has to write up a basic tail slash, or whatever you would want to call it. It may not be in the rules, but that is what house rules are for.
Cheers!!
Noob in Sherwood Park AB....Drop me a line if you need a player.
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