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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 9:47AM
#31
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Nov 24, 2008
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Honestly, why do so many people complain about how X is unbalanced compared to Y?
4E vastly improved the tactical "miniature" combat gameplay. In doing so, it "balanced" a lot of things about the different "units" in that combat (class balance).
It's a better game now, overall. Nothing to complain about.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 10:18AM
#32
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I'm an experienced gamer but I wouldn't know game balance if it tipped over and hit me in the head  . Even after twenty-five years of DnDing, I consider myself a hobbyist, not a game designer. A couple of things at our table: House rules are kept to minimum (for times when there is 'no rule', or 'I can't find the rule' or rarely, 'RAW isn't working'). No player designed classes or powers (unless I happen to recognize your name as that of a professional game designer  ). Playing the game as is results in much less imbalance than if amateurs (or hobbyists if you will) are trying to 'fix' or 'improve' things all the time. That's been my experience at least.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 10:30AM
#33
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Nov 27, 2006
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While balance is a fine thing to be sure, there is the dread of having Pleasantville syndrome, everyone is good at everything, everyone can take on this challenge with a bit of trying, everyone has X to hit for Y[W] damage, EVERYONE has the same powers and hit points, with all uniqueness being a glimmer of fluff slapped on at the end.
Wow, that sounds alot like 4e....
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 10:35AM
#34
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Jan 22, 2008
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Wow, that sounds alot like 4e....
False 4e has unique but balanced characters. Try playing a wizard like a fighter see what happens.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 10:37AM
#35
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My personal feelings are that I tend to pick feats not on what is most effective but on how I envision my character. I also tend to lean lower on the ability scores then most as I like to have room for improvement without being over the top in my abilities.
I've never much worried about balance. People generally tend to know what they're getting into when they make a character and as such they never really whine about oneupmanship and feeling inadequate.
They're girlfriends handle that I'm sure.
-Cal
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 10:38AM
#36
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Date Joined:
May 26, 2009
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If youliked certain unbalanced aspects of previous editions, play them or house rule the inclusion of something similar. Nobody really cares what you do in the privacy of your own gaming group.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 10:57AM
#37
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Jun 14, 2006
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I've never much worried about balance. People generally tend to know what they're getting into when they make a character and as such they never really whine about oneupmanship and feeling inadequate.
They're girlfriends handle that I'm sure.
-Cal
Wait... so are you saying that only girls ever feel bested and inadequate? Or that when gamers do feel bested and inadequate, they have girlfriends that they can turn to for help
Because both are blatant misrepresentations of reality.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 11:23AM
#38
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Dec 27, 2008
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Wait... so are you saying that only girls ever feel bested and inadequate? Or that when gamers do feel bested and inadequate, they have girlfriends that they can turn to for help
Because both are blatant misrepresentations of reality.
I think he's saying that there's no need for players to whine about how inadequate they are, because their girlfriends already whine about that enough. That is, the girlfriends whine about how inadequate the players are.
You know, in that way.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 11:31AM
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Because I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea that not wanting to play Class X automatically makes me a sidekick at best.
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4 years ago ::
May 26, 2009 - 11:49AM
#40
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2008
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Balance is all good but too much of good thing turns out to be a bad thing. I think 4E does too much balance. Not to the extreme but more than I'd like. The game is still fun for while though. It just kind of gets dull after playing too much from my experience. The simple fix is to play for while then play something else and come back to it. I've just had problems finding anyone who wants to play it again though.
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