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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:17AM #1
elondir
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Honestly, why do so many people complain about how X is unbalanced compared to Y? I've been a D&D player since 1991 and only had once slight problem with game balance (I played a human monk in a campaign with STR 50 tieflings in 2001). If you ask me, balance hurts the game. It's the things that unbalance a character that make that character interesting and unique.

The whole point of the game is to have fun. I don't think people are having fun when they nitpick about classes being unbalanced. It may be that they have lesser powered characters.

House rules exist for a reason. Personally I prefer 2e with BD&D combat rules and some 3e-isms.

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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:24AM #2
ADHadh
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People want balance, so they won't feel subpar for playing a half-elf fighter rather than "the only true build". DMs worry about munchkins. Either way, it's good if some classes are better at something than others (that's the point), but no one wants certain races and classes completely obsolete because of those differences.
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:27AM #3
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Its not fun when you play a game and you suck totally, or when someone ruins the campaign by stomping all over it.

Its different in 4e as most things are balanced, or the difference in balance isn't majorly significant.
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:28AM #4
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Balance is important so that no one feels like they are playing the side kick. Everyone wants to feel useful in a campaign. Hence why every class has to be even with every other class at every level. 2E is fun but to me 4e is better.
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:45AM #5
doneisi
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If you don't care about balance then why have everyone start at the same level? Why not let them start at 15 or 23 depending on how awesome they think there character should be? Varying power between players makes creating fun encounters for everyone very difficult. If I have to attack a monster 10 times to kill it, but my friend can take it out in one minor action; I'm going to be bored out of my mind and so will my friend.
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:51AM #6
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doneisi wrote:

If you don't care about balance then why have everyone start at the same level ? Why not let them start at 15 or 23 depending on how awesome they think there character should be ? Varying power between players makes creating fun encounters for everyone very difficult. If I have to attack a monster 10 times to kill it, but my friend can take it out in one minor action; I'm going to be bored out of my mind and so will my friend.


This.

If people like playing Imbal so much, and want characters > everyone else why not simply play at a higher level than everyone else?

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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 6:58AM #7
OsricO
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elondir wrote:

Honestly, why do so many people complain about how X is unbalanced compared to Y?


Because I find balanced games more fun.

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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 7:02AM #8
dreadedgoat
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balance is great for a game i played in a game with my brother and friends and we let some "power gamers" in where we make char's based on roleplay and fun these guys made fighter based classes that when charged at level 10 could do almost 300 dmg so when they decide they dont like your attitude they just come up and smack you with there dagger for 100 dmg its kinda stupid 4e is great every class has a purpose and everyone has a chance to do something its unfair to the players and the dm to have unbalance players some who have a harder time taken down dragons and some who can just go up to a terrask and eat its face
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 7:20AM #9
LemonFrosted
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Sure, it's fun to be imba-powerful for a while, but what about being imba-weaksauce?
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4 years ago  ::  May 26, 2009 - 7:21AM #10
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Let us not forget that the reason game balance exists between the classes is to allow the DM to create appropriate encounters easily. Without solid game balance, you are left with the classic DM dilemma from earlier editions: "creature that can pose a threat to the fighter will kill the wizard in one shot, creature that can pose a threat to the wizard will be unable to hit the fighter at all."
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