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Switch to Forum Live View Familiars: A bit of a disappointment in 4th Edition.
4 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2009 - 8:32PM #451
PheonixIV
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XunValDorl of HouseKilsek wrote:

There is a limit to what you can do.


Yep, you can do absolutely anything you want so long as the mechanics stay the same.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 24, 2009 - 8:35PM #452
RayOMan
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Salla wrote:

Indeed. There was a reason I always subbed out my familiar for something else. 3E familiars sucked HARD.


Agreed!

In 3rd I had no choice but to get stuck with a class feature I never used unless the DM allowed me to sub it out. I would be more inclined to play a wizard and spend a feat to get a familar in 4th.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2009 - 1:49AM #453
Kalnaur
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XunValDorl of HouseKilsek wrote:

Well guess what??? There are DMs who want to play by the book because they don't want loads and loads of houserules to keep up with.


Which is the fault and shortcoming of the DM, not the text they are using.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 25, 2009 - 4:18AM #454
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As others have pointed out, this is an ability placed in the hands of the player, and the rule is in the PHB.

The limits are
1) You can't change the mechanics
2) Your DM could always house rule PHB p. 55 away.
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