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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 1:50PM
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Aug 17, 2008
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In my area, my brother and I have not been able to find anyone who wants to even give it a try..... because everyone seems so upset on how things have changed. most of which I still don't understand, they did not take out Multiclassing, they simply made it so people could not do the really expoitable stuff old multiclassing does. and as for PrC's? I just feel that Paragon Paths were a really good direction to take them, old PrCs again, were heavily exploitable, especially in conjuction with multiclassing. but all in all, I feel like this makes things easier for people like me who aren't good as finding the best combos and just, want to play for fun.
and, just because they are no longer associated die rolls and DCs for Perforing, Cooking, etc. does that mean you can't do it? No, Not really. I really don't see why you can't do it.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:33PM
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In before the flames.
Have your friends read the system and played it a session or two? if not, try to make them. you cannot pass judgement on a game (positive or negative) on something without trying it.
Also, it's not true that "nobody likes 4E". Response has been overwhelmingly positive where I live. My entire group switched, and an old player is thinking of coming back.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:35PM
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In my area, my brother and I have not been able to find anyone who wants to even give it a try..... because everyone seems so upset on how things have changed. most of which I still don't understand, they did not take out Multiclassing, they simply made it so people could not do the really expoitable stuff old multiclassing does. and as for PrC's? I just feel that Paragon Paths were a really good direction to take them, old PrCs again, were heavily exploitable, especially in conjuction with multiclassing. but all in all, I feel like this makes things easier for people like me who aren't good as finding the best combos and just, want to play for fun.
and, just because they are no longer associated die rolls and DCs for Perforing, Cooking, etc. does that mean you can't do it? No, Not really. I really don't see why you can't do it.
Ultimately the goal is to play D&D, so just play whatever edition you can. As long as you have fun. I always think of D&D as edition neutral.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:36PM
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Yeah it has been overwhelmingly positive here too.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:37PM
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Jun 21, 2007
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People do like 4e, infact WotC is reporting that the response is overwhelming, and that they are already on thier 3rd printing.
For those that do not like it, they state various reasons. Some are valid, others are just plain stupid. Some are just plain afraid of change.
/shrug people are entitled to thier opinons I guess. One would hope that the reserve judgment untill they actually try it.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:37PM
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Granis, I'm pretty sure this thread will soon erode into some sort of a volcano.
Anyways, B4 is right, but if that doesn't fix the thing, you should either stick with 3.X or perhaps extend your search farther away. Both options are not optimal, but well, people are strange. Especially roleplayers :P
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:41PM
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In my area, my brother and I have not been able to find anyone who wants to even give it a try.....
If they do not want to even give it try, then there is not much help for them. While I would never tell someone they have to try something that they do not want to, I will certainly discount any opinion they have since they have no actual experience with it. If, after actually trying something they decide it is not for them, that's all right. They, at least, gave it a go. I think some people are afraid that they may actually like it and don't want to be in that situation. I know I had some egg on my face when, after years of stating that I did not like pumpkin pie but never having tasted it (just the thought made me squirm as a kid), I tried it and discovered it actually tasted pretty good. My family still ribs me to this day about that, but I still enjoy every slice of pumpkin pie.
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. --George Orwell There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. --Howard Zinn He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster. --Friedrich Nietzsche 
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:42PM
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Mar 31, 2008
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First don't try to force anybody to do anything, or even if they do decide to switch you may not be involved in their games.
Did you ask and get specific reasons why they dislike 4th?
The first step in understanding why someone doesn't like something would be to ask them, rather than try to guess why they don't like it.
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:42PM
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Interesting... The Nov 30 dudes used to be all about posting weird misconceptions about the new edition to get the 4vengers roused...
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5 years ago ::
Aug 17, 2008 - 2:46PM
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In before the flames.
Me too. I can just smell the trolls already on their way here.
Have your friends read the system and played it a session or two? if not, try to make them. you cannot pass judgement on a game (positive or negative) on something without trying it.[/quote]
Agreed. This goes doubly so for 4e, which is the Green Eggs and Ham of RPGs. It sounds bad, and it reads bad at first, but it plays really well.
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