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Jun 10, 2008 - 7:50AM
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I never saw that adventure, then again the two second ed games I played were home brewed made up worlds. Getting back on track once again ill ask why should fantasy armour look realistic? In the name of god why?
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 7:57AM
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Is it because he/she/it (honestly, it's so hard to tell with the young mind flayers these days) is giving the peace symbol?
ROFL! Trying to at least! It's difficult to make a proper peace sign when you're so evil, it always just ends up as this horrifying claw that scares children. Ultimately, it just wants to be loved and accepted. Unfortunately, it's beginning to rethink joining the Drow commune since Lolth had those orphans sacrificed to that spider. It just doesn't seem like something the reincarnation of Jesus would do...
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 7:58AM
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On the other hand, the girl on the 4E cover was enough to make me reverse my decision to buy 4E. She's in an environment where covering yourself makes sense, the outfit itself looks uncomfortable and restraining (as several female members of Astrid's pointed out, her boobs would spill out if she moved too rapidly), her pose is stupid, and it's sad that we've had two covers for the PHB, and despite having reversed the gender roles (from male caster/female warrior to female caster/male warrior), they still both featured a (relatively) hot human woman posing with her boobs shot forward, and an unsexy monstrous man 
You didn't mention the sock-puppet she's holding in her left hand. Seriously, that's a treant sock-puppet, right? It can't be a spell effect because I've seen more convincing special effects in Dangermouse or any copy of the Beano.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:04AM
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So saying that the armor for women is the same that's for men is just wrong. Although I do realize that breast cups in them make little sense, or a lot of other things, but if armor had centuries of history of being made for women, they would look very different than men armor.
Well, first of all to William: I don't think fantasy armor should look like real armor, I think style is a lot more important. WETA Workshop has been doing a great job lately with armors that aren't realistic, yet look very believable and cool for movies like Narnia and Lord of the Rings. Believable does not necessarily equal realistic.
But yeah, Pine. I'm just not seeing it yet. What specific structures of the armor need to be different and for what reasons? Just generally saying female armors would be different is meaningless without specific things that would be different and specific reasons for those differences.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:08AM
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Well if it does not have to be realistic then why should it be the same for men and women? Men and womens fashion is almost always different due to diffrences in their anatomy. Why should fantasy armour be any different?
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:10AM
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Men and womens fashion is almost always different due to diffrences in their anatomy. Why should fantasy armour be any different?
The Warlord Wears Prada
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:15AM
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Jan 22, 2008
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The Warlord Wears Prada
The amazing thing is I have an idea for a tiefling warlord who does that, when not on the battle field she wears the nicest clothing she can afford, jewlery and nice shoes, all accessorized with a tiefling style long sword, or in a safer town just a stylish dagger. Mainly because whos going to wear armour everywhere?
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:15AM
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Well if it does not have to be realistic then why should it be the same for men and women? Men and womens fashion is almost always different due to diffrences in their anatomy. Why should fantasy armour be any different?
Because we're not talking about fantasy armor, we're talking about real armor and what it would hypothetically be like in reality where women to have historically fought in wars. This is an entirely different topic from the topic of armor in the game, and seems to have been spawned at some point on the previous page.
In game art, fashion is paramount. In real armors (which again, is an entirely different topic) function is paramount. I'm disputing Pine's claims that there is any functional need for female plate armor to be different than male plate armor.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:20AM
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Jan 22, 2008
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oh in that case, no idea, and depends on what the armour is for. Rember a lot of the later sets of full plate, particularly those used by the Italian city states were there for decoration as much as function. It was designed to look impressive and be functional for the typically short battles they fought. I dont have a link to it right now but the Milanese style emphasiszes this. While highly protective you would not be able to wear it and move for more than a few hours at a time.
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5 years ago ::
Jun 10, 2008 - 8:38AM
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But yeah, Pine. I'm just not seeing it yet. What specific structures of the armor need to be different and for what reasons? Just generally saying female armors would be different is meaningless without specific things that would be different and specific reasons for those differences.
Yeah, you're right. I'd guess that, first of all, the proportions would be different, being a bit slimmer on the shoulders and overall smaller since women have a slender build when compared to men. Another guess is that the weight would be balanced slightly differently, not sure what that'd impy though.
They'd also have different decorations, like the example someone posted that has an outline of mans chest and stomach muscles on it, so possibly women armor would have breastcups. Other than that, I can't come up with anything off the top of my head. They wouldn't be radicaly different, definately not how a lot of fantasy armor looks, but a lot of men fantasy armor doesn't make that much sense either. Was just saying that real world comparisons aren't very accurate.
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