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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2013 - 8:19AM #13681
Ambisinister
Date Joined: Jan 12, 2013
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Do you need to make attacks through the Staff of Sleep and Charm to gain its property bonus, or do you simply need to have it in hand? 
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2013 - 9:42AM #13682
RisingZan
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Mar 1, 2013 -- 8:19AM, Ambisinister wrote:

Do you need to make attacks through the Staff of Sleep and Charm to gain its property bonus, or do you simply need to have it in hand? 


The attacks must be made through the Staff of Sleep and Charm to gain the property bonus.

Any weapon or implement property that has an effect on attacks must be made through that weapon or implement. If the property does not have an effect on attacks (example, a speed increase, resistance, skill bonus, etc), then you simply need to be wielding/holding the implement or weapon.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2013 - 9:52AM #13683
RisingZan
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Mar 1, 2013 -- 12:47AM, Aranamie wrote:

Q: I have a monster who has a melee (range 3) basic attack that targets "one or two creatures." I then charge with that creature. At the end of my charge's movement toward my primary target, there are 2 PCs in range of the power. Can I attack both PCs with the basic attack from the power as part of the charge attack, or does the charge action limit me to only attacking the single target it specifies that I choose as part of the charge action?


If you gave us the name of the monster to look at (assuming its not home-brewed) we could verify you're reading its attacks correctly.    Unfortunately the compendium doesn't seem to be returning results as expected for search terms "in quotes", so I haven't been able to identify the monster in question.

As thespaceinvader said, make sure you're reading it correctly. At-will does not equal basic attack.  If this is a published monster, the sword icon has to have a circle around it to be a basic attack. 

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2013 - 11:53AM #13684
spunxow
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Situation: A wizard and an orc are facing each other in a 5 foot wide corridor. The wizard wants to shoot a fireball past the orc so that it explodes behind the creature and also hits an archer who's hanging back.

Is this right? : If the wizard was using a ranged attack, the orc would give superior cover to whatever was in the target's square. But because it's an area burst, and the line of effect from the origin square to the orc is unblocked, there's no penalty to the attack roll when the fireball hits the orc from behind. The orc doesn't block any lines (he only provides cover). The line of effect from attacker to origin simply needs only to be unblocked -- cover and concealment don't matter at all.

If that's right, then sending a fireball past the front line of attackers can be devastating, yes?


Feb 28, 2013 -- 11:42PM, Alcestis wrote:

The Wizard is using an Area Burst, not a Ranged attack. Not the same thing. Enemies only provide cover, not superior cover, to ranged attacks.




Can't creatures provide superior cover if they block line of effect from 3 or 4 of the attacker's corners? (PHB1 280) Or did that change in RC?

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2013 - 12:45PM #13685
RisingZan
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Mar 1, 2013 -- 11:53AM, spunxow wrote:

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Situation: A wizard and an orc are facing each other in a 5 foot wide corridor. The wizard wants to shoot a fireball past the orc so that it explodes behind the creature and also hits an archer who's hanging back.

Is this right? : If the wizard was using a ranged attack, the orc would give superior cover to whatever was in the target's square. But because it's an area burst, and the line of effect from the origin square to the orc is unblocked, there's no penalty to the attack roll when the fireball hits the orc from behind. The orc doesn't block any lines (he only provides cover). The line of effect from attacker to origin simply needs only to be unblocked -- cover and concealment don't matter at all.

If that's right, then sending a fireball past the front line of attackers can be devastating, yes?


Feb 28, 2013 -- 11:42PM, Alcestis wrote:

The Wizard is using an Area Burst, not a Ranged attack. Not the same thing. Enemies only provide cover, not superior cover, to ranged attacks.




Can't creatures provide superior cover if they block line of effect from 3 or 4 of the attacker's corners? (PHB1 280) Or did that change in RC?


I don't believe this was every changed, although the RC may have clarified it (I don't have my PHB available to verify the original text).

 In any case, creatures never grant cover against Melee, Close or Area attacks.  Addtionally, cover against an area attack such as Fireball is determined from the origin square of the burst, not the square of the Wizard.
  The wizard needs line of effect to the origin square, and then all cover effects are determined by drawing line of effect from that square to each enemy in the area of the burst, and only if the lines pass through solid objects, not creatures.

  (BTW, considering the limited damage of Fireball at 4d6+int, I would rarely consider it to be "devastating", although it can wipe out a lot of minions and hit multiple enemies are are not tightly grouped.)

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2013 - 3:24PM #13686
Alcestis
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Mar 1, 2013 -- 9:42AM, RisingZan wrote:

Mar 1, 2013 -- 8:19AM, Ambisinister wrote:

Do you need to make attacks through the Staff of Sleep and Charm to gain its property bonus, or do you simply need to have it in hand? 


The attacks must be made through the Staff of Sleep and Charm to gain the property bonus.

Any weapon or implement property that has an effect on attacks must be made through that weapon or implement. If the property does not have an effect on attacks (example, a speed increase, resistance, skill bonus, etc), then you simply need to be wielding/holding the implement or weapon.


That isn't true, actually. The only rule that says that is in AV and it specifically applies only to weapon attacks. Implements just always work. So yeah, Staff of Sleep and Charm will grant its bonus to Implement attacks, even if not being used for the attack, by RAW.

@Spunx: Rizing got it. Bursts/Blasts/Melee creatures never granted cover. Always been that way, even in playtesting. Why, you might ask? Because if you position the burst in the air, suddenly no lines are blocked anyway. So it was just needless fiddling.

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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 2:25PM #13687
peteincary
Date Joined: Jan 26, 2013
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Question about shaman conjurations:

The spiritual companion conjuration can move up to the player's speed when the player moves. From the power Call Spirit Companion, "When you take a move action, you can also move the spirit a number of squares equal to your speed."

1) If I take a move action, can my spiritual companion move 1 square and count it as a shift? Or does this count as a walk thus provoking opportunity attacks? The description just calls it a move, but I don't want to provoke opportunity attacks if I can avoid that.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 2:35PM #13688
thespaceinvader
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The spirit doesn't provoke, so the question is moot.
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 02, 2013 - 2:45PM #13689
peteincary
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Why does the spirit not provoke? It can be attacked per the power description. Is there some rule I am missing? Thanks.

Ok now I realize mine was a really really stupid question considering there is a whole "Shaman spirit companion FAQ" thread right below this one. Undecided

Only creatures provoke OA, and shaman spirit companions are not creatures. Check and thanks!   
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3 months ago  ::  Mar 03, 2013 - 7:27AM #13690
peteincary
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Regarding the wizard spell Grease.

The spell is a daily spell. So I can cast the Grease spell once per day and put the zone down. Is the Grease Attack (listed as a daily free action) only usable once per day as well, or does the Grease Attack trigger every time a creature enters the zone? 
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