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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 10:17AM #13601
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Great, and thanks! I assumed there was nothing keeping them from interacting, but I thought I would check to see if there was something I overlooked.
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 11:23AM #13602
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 10:12AM, Sea-Envy wrote:

Feb 17, 2013 -- 9:15AM, Nirafelos wrote:

Even if they were worded identically they would stack, since they're not the same named game element.




or a numerical bounus with a type.




Sure, though before you could have a typed bonus to something, it must be defined as a named game element.

If Inertia were defined as ignoring 1 square of forced movement per point, the dwarf racial trait was a +1 racial bonus to Inertia, and the belt was a +1 item bonus to Inertia, that would be another way of reaching the same result.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:23PM #13603
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Good Afternoon, I have two questions for you guys here.

What is the maximum distance of Melee 1 in feet from the point of origin?
Is it almost the same as reach but is it the attacker's trait's benefit instead of a weapon's properties?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:36PM #13604
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 12:47AM, Metafictional wrote:

Using a Whetstone to add token Cold damage to the power to enable the Frost combo?




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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:38PM #13605
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:23PM, VoyRager wrote:

Good Afternoon, I have two questions for you guys here.

What is the maximum distance of Melee 1 in feet from the point of origin?
Is it almost the same as reach but is it the attacker's trait's benefit instead of a weapon's properties?



Melee reach is measured in squares, not feet, so the question is unanswerable.  Melee 1 is a reach of 1 square, i.e. you can attack someone in an adjacent square, or in your own square.

It has nothing to do with weapons - but worth noting that it can override weapons - e.g. a Barbarian who uses a reach weapon, still only has reach 1 with Curtain of Steel.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:39PM #13606
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:23PM, VoyRager wrote:

Good Afternoon, I have two questions for you guys here.

What is the maximum distance of Melee 1 in feet from the point of origin?
Is it almost the same as reach but is it the attacker's trait's benefit instead of a weapon's properties?




Melee 1 is up to 1 square away.

1 square is 5ft on a side.

So, theoretically, if you're at one corner of your square, and they're at the other corner of a diagonally adjacent square, it'd be 2 *(5 * SQRT(2))

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:43PM #13607
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:38PM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:23PM, VoyRager wrote:

Good Afternoon, I have two questions for you guys here.

What is the maximum distance of Melee 1 in feet from the point of origin?
Is it almost the same as reach but is it the attacker's trait's benefit instead of a weapon's properties?



Melee reach is measured in squares, not feet, so the question is unanswerable.  Melee 1 is a reach of 1 square, i.e. you can attack someone in an adjacent square, or in your own square.

It has nothing to do with weapons - but worth noting that it can override weapons - e.g. a Barbarian who uses a reach weapon, still only has reach 1 with Curtain of Steel.


Thank you, this means if a square equals 5ft then the maximum distance of Melee and Melee 1 are 5ft while reach is maximum of 10ft.

Correct me if this scale is wrong but assuming this is what you telling me.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:49PM #13608
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:43PM, VoyRager wrote:

Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:38PM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:23PM, VoyRager wrote:

Good Afternoon, I have two questions for you guys here.

What is the maximum distance of Melee 1 in feet from the point of origin?
Is it almost the same as reach but is it the attacker's trait's benefit instead of a weapon's properties?



Melee reach is measured in squares, not feet, so the question is unanswerable.  Melee 1 is a reach of 1 square, i.e. you can attack someone in an adjacent square, or in your own square.

It has nothing to do with weapons - but worth noting that it can override weapons - e.g. a Barbarian who uses a reach weapon, still only has reach 1 with Curtain of Steel.


Thank you, this means if a square equals 5ft then the maximum distance of Melee and Melee 1 are 5ft while reach is maximum of 10ft.

Correct me if this scale is wrong but assuming this is what you telling me.




Your reach is determined by a number of factors. Default is Melee 1. Some weapons have the "reach" property, which adds 1 square to your reach. There are other ways to increase it. Racial traits, feats, powers, and features can temporarily or permanently increase your reach.

If a power says "Melee: Weapon" it can be used against any creature within your reach.
If a power says "Melee: X" it can be used against any creature within X squares of you.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:51PM #13609
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As an aside, why are you interested/worried about the conversion to feet?
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 17, 2013 - 1:54PM #13610
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Feb 17, 2013 -- 1:51PM, Cohen95 wrote:

As an aside, why are you interested/worried about the conversion to feet?


In feet(s) makes clearer definition and description.

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