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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 4:57AM
#13201
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2010
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Thank's very much, Zathris, for your detailed explanation. I think eventually i will understand that whole thing.  Next Questions: 1.The item called Harper's Pin. Is it meant exclusively for Chars that pick the theme Harper Agent (don't know the exact name)? Cause otherwise it's much too strong for a lvl 3 item, imo. 2. What does the "rattling" keyword mean and what can you do with it? Which classes/races/builds can make the best use of it? 3. There's this feat "Silvery Glow", that gives Boni just for following a certain deity, without having to be a divine character. Are there other, similar feats, that depend on having a certain deity, and can be picked by non-divine characters?` Looking forward to your answers.
1: Yes, it's for the Harper Agent theme. It's not intended for anything else, and as a Rare item, is not accessible by any other means without DM fiat.
2: -2 to hit for a round. It's a Fear effect. Lots of stuff, mainly for Rogues, but also for Fighters.
3: Probably. Sehanine definitely has a lot of them.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 7:55AM
#13202
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Date Joined:
Oct 12, 2011
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Hullo!
I was reading my paragon path 'Favored Soul' (Avenger). I had a question regarding the physical changes.
The way I interpret it, the moment you become level 11 and choose this path, wings start to grow from your back. Is this true? And does this mean that I can fly?
The path feature for level 16 says this: A pair of feathery wings unfolds from your back, and you gain a fly speed of 6.
So I take it that at level 11 you can't fly yet. However, at level 12 you get the Wings of Angel Utility power which has the following effect: Until the stance ends, your fly speed increases by 4, and you can hover.
So I'd say that you can't actually fly until level 16, but at level 12, when in the stance you gain a fly speed of 4 (0+4=4). If you have addition powers that let you fly, the speed increases by 4.
Is the way I interpret it correct?
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 10:20AM
#13203
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Date Joined:
Apr 15, 2007
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I don't think you'll find anywhere in the rules that says that you are assumed to have a fly speed of 0 by default. It's a slick bit of rules lawyering, but I'm going to go out on a (very short) limb here and say that most DM's will roll their eyes and tell you "no, it doesn't work like that".
OTOH, I'd allow it if I was the DM, so I guess you could expect some table variation.
As for the fluff of you having wings, that's really up to you. Maybe you're starting to grow pinion feathers on your back, or tiny wings are in fact growing. Or maybe you serve the Raven Queen and there's no physical wings until you need them, at which point you have black wings of shadow magically appear out of nowhere. It's your character, and you can describe what's happening however you want.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 10:39AM
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..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />Is the way I interpret it correct?
No.
Avengers have many powers that allow them to fly, making that Utility useful before L16. However, unless you have something that GIVES YOU a fly speed, you don't have a fly speed to increase.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 10:43AM
#13205
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Favored Soul doesn't let you fly before level 16.
IMO Heaven's Boon was originally level 11 but was moved to level 16 late in design stage while the rest of the Paragon Path decription and powers weren't adjusted accordingly. I have a feeling there was a level 16 Feature that was improving upon by allowing to fly in better armor that was replaced by Heaven's Boon instead and thats why it says in the description that you can fly more easily without sacrificing your durability later.
The description of Favored Soul and Wings of Angels power are assuming flying speed at level 11 by both noting the appearance of wings bearring your weight and increasing your fly speed respectively. But only at level 16 does a pair of feathery wings actually unfolds from your back to give you a fly speed in fact.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 10:46AM
#13206
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Wow. Not sure why I replied to that post. 
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 10:49AM
#13207
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Avengers have many powers that allow them to fly, making that Utility useful before L16.
FWIW There is only 3 Avenger powers (1 before level 16) that give a fly speed to benefit from Wings of Angels. Other flying effects won't get anything.
Avenger Utility 10: Wings of Vengeance
Avenger Attack 23: Vengeful Apparition
Avenger Attack 25: Mantle of the Astral Champion
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:17PM
#13208
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Date Joined:
Oct 12, 2011
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So the level 12 utility power is pretty worthless untill I get either items that allow me to fly, or I have to take the level 10 power =/ Ah well, according to half my party I'm OP anyway, so I just have to deal with it... Although I hope that WotC will fix this. Thanks for the help anyway
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:29PM
#13209
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Date Joined:
Jun 19, 2004
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So the level 12 utility power is pretty worthless untill I get either items that allow me to fly, or I have to take the level 10 power =/
Ah well, according to half my party I'm OP anyway, so I just have to deal with it... Although I hope that WotC will fix this. Thanks for the help anyway
WotC won't fix stuff that isn't broken. Its not very useful, but also not broken.
They aren't even fixing things that are clearly broken and often complained about (Ninefold getting implement keyword on dragonbreath as an example from the last thread I looked at.)
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5 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 4:00PM
#13210
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Well, that'd be fixing an error with the CB, not a rules error. Not the same category of fail.
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