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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 7:01PM
#12901
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Is it ok to assume the latter should work the same way as the former?
Yes it does, provided you dislike the result
I believe this is pronounced "Expect Table Variation".
(With a side order of "no, really, if you try to use that Battle Standard abusively against any GM familiar with any Battle Standard, expect him to immediately rule that it works according to the rules for Battle Standards.")
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 7:06PM
#12902
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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Your answer has nothing to do with bgravato's question so i supposed you misquoted, and Jedi asked if the Standard of the Silver Dragon effect lasted until the end of the encounter as the other battle standards do. It doesn't say so. Table variation have nothing to do with this. Wether it should be ruled that way is a different question and i agree it should. But that was not the question.Jedi you're right, it is poorly written 
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 7:08PM
#12903
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Your answer has nothing to do with bgravato's question so i supposed you misquoted, and Jedi asked the Standard of the Silver Dragon effect lasted until the end of the encounter as the other battle standards do. It doesn't say so. Table variation have nothing to do with this. Wether it should be ruled that way is a different question and i agree it should. But that was not the question.
Whoops, you're right. I thought your response was to the Battle Standard question.
Still, I suspect my "expect table variation, and your GM will inflict the normal battle standard rules on you" answer was correct, as long as we're talking about the question I THOUGHT I was answering.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 8:19PM
#12904
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Date Joined:
May 26, 2011
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Your answer has nothing to do with bgravato's question so i supposed you misquoted, and Jedi asked if the Standard of the Silver Dragon effect lasted until the end of the encounter as the other battle standards do. It doesn't say so. Table variation have nothing to do with this. Wether it should be ruled that way is a different question and i agree it should. But that was not the question.
Jedi you're right, it is poorly written
Thanks, that was the clarification I was looking for! Hopefully they'll update that "soon." 
The name's Jedidiah, but either Jedd or Jedi will do. :P
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6 months ago ::
Nov 27, 2012 - 1:47AM
#12905
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Nov 27, 2012
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Sorry for my english, I live in Russia. Actually the question. How can I verify that a dog in wild shap is a druid. And this is done by igromehanike? That is what and when (active or passive check, too) should throw the NPC and whether and when to at what complexity. Just as I understood, it becomes a druid, for example, a dog, and to check the insights it has to be exactly the dog (this is not a hoax is not an illusion.) But if this is so, it seems to me cheat. And the same question on the ritual "Tree shape" to check the caster is a tree or can see that the tree is not present? I have not found the answer to the question of identifying the effect of polymorph in the rules.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 27, 2012 - 2:29AM
#12906
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A Druid in Wild Shape needs to make a Bluff check opposed by the target's Passive Insight in order to convince the target it is actually an animal.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 27, 2012 - 2:35AM
#12907
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How can I verify that a dog in wild shap is a druid
A Druid Wild Shaped into a dog is indistinguishable from real dog. There might be effects letting you detect polymorphed creatures but otherwise you have no way to tell unless the Druid act contrary to how a dog would act for exemple..
And the same question on the ritual "Tree shape" to check the caster is a tree or can see that the tree is not present?
Similarly a creature transformed into a large tree with Tree Shape is indistinguishable from a real tree. It could possibly be detected by an Arcana check to Identify Magical Phenomenon though, which can identify magical phenomenon created by magical ritual. This use of the skill is not normally used to identify powers, magic items or their effects and thats why it can't be used to see through Wild Shape. (RC 135)
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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6 months ago ::
Nov 27, 2012 - 2:37AM
#12908
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May 12, 2009
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A Druid in Wild Shape needs to make a Bluff check opposed by the target's Passive Insight in order to convince the target it is actually an animal.
Where did you read that because powers such as Nature's Mask specifically say so, but not Wild Shape.
D404 Nature's Mask: While you are in human or animal form, other creatures can attempt to discern your true nature by making an Insight check opposed by your Bluff check; you gain a +5 bonus to your check.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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6 months ago ::
Nov 27, 2012 - 4:26AM
#12909
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Nov 27, 2012
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Thank you.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 27, 2012 - 5:13AM
#12910
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Nov 27, 2012
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where can I read more about the polymorph?
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