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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 1:23PM
#13821
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Another question about concealment: do different types of concealment stack? For instance, if the combat is taking place in a dark forest? The dim light condition would grant all squares partial concealment (-2 to attack), but would the squares that have light foliage (lightly obscured) stack with the dim light to make a total of -4 to attack? And would heavily obscured areas of thick foliage be then -4 to attack (melee) and -7 to attack (ranged; -2 from the dim light and -5 from the total concealment of the thick foliage)? Or do you just pick the highest penalty available from one source and use that?
No, you just take the highest. Cover and Concealment can stack though, which gets kind of... odd, because some things provide both.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 1:29PM
#13822
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Quick question about Sha'ir's and Witch's familiars. Do I understand it correctly that they let them change their spells from any spells in the character builder, at every extended rest?
How do DMs handle that in a good way? That sounds like a lot of work if the players want to have their powers printed to them from the character builder all the time.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 1:33PM
#13823
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Correct answer is: don't play a Sha'ir or a Witch. They are strictly worse than Mages and Arcanists and the only difference is fluff, not mechanical.
But yeah, that is what the feature does. How would I handle it? "You're the player, you print and keep track of which powers you want to use, if it slows down the game, you default to the powers you had yesterday."
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 2:40PM
#13824
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Is there an item that replicates the False Blood Amulet but scales? I have a player whose changeling is looking to swap out the Becomer feat (necessary because the character is a deep cover agent posing as an elf and changelings don't speak Elvish, for one thing) when she acquires a False Blood Amulet, but the neck slot NAD boost of the FBA loses its efficacy beyond 13th or 14th level.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 3:30PM
#13825
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Is there an item that replicates the False Blood Amulet but scales? I have a player whose changeling is looking to swap out the Becomer feat (necessary because the character is a deep cover agent posing as an elf and changelings don't speak Elvish, for one thing) when she acquires a False Blood Amulet, but the neck slot NAD boost of the FBA loses its efficacy beyond 13th or 14th level.
I think the False Blood Amulet only has a level 7 entry because it was created for a particular module and the designer just didn't account for it at other levels.
It seems reasonable to make higher level versions of it at levels 12, 17, 22, and 27, at least in terms of defenses.
As to whether or not the property should scale, there is no "Standard" behavior. Based on reviewing other neck slot items with bonuses to skills, you seem to have three options
1) It doesn't scale the property skill bonus at all (this is how most of them work)
2) Increase the bonus per tier (+4 at paragon level items, +6 at epic level), or maybe at mid tier (like 7 & 12 - +2 bonus, 17 & 22 - +4 bonus)
3) The bonus to the bluff check equals the enhancement bonus on the item.
I don't have a strong feeling on which of those would be most appropriate.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 3:47PM
#13826
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Date Joined:
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Thanks for the feedback, RZ! Any idea how to fudge the Online Character Builder to account for houseruling the item should I go that route? (And, yes, folks, I realize it's easy enough to "pencil in" changes from the Builder on a character sheet; I just wonder if it's possible to tweak the Builder this way.)
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 4:01PM
#13827
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Is there an item that replicates the False Blood Amulet but scales? I have a player whose changeling is looking to swap out the Becomer feat (necessary because the character is a deep cover agent posing as an elf and changelings don't speak Elvish, for one thing) when she acquires a False Blood Amulet, but the neck slot NAD boost of the FBA loses its efficacy beyond 13th or 14th level.
I think the False Blood Amulet only has a level 7 entry because it was created for a particular module and the designer just didn't account for it at other levels.
It seems reasonable to make higher level versions of it at levels 12, 17, 22, and 27, at least in terms of defenses.
As to whether or not the property should scale, there is no "Standard" behavior. Based on reviewing other neck slot items with bonuses to skills, you seem to have three options
1) It doesn't scale the property skill bonus at all (this is how most of them work)
2) Increase the bonus per tier (+4 at paragon level items, +6 at epic level), or maybe at mid tier (like 7 & 12 - +2 bonus, 17 & 22 - +4 bonus)
3) The bonus to the bluff check equals the enhancement bonus on the item.
I don't have a strong feeling on which of those would be most appropriate.
False Blood Amulet is an RPGA item, all of which were removed from the game (unofficially, but then officially WotC never considered the RPGA items to be official, despite being printed in modules with the 4e logo). WotC does weird things some times.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 20, 2013 - 4:16PM
#13828
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Date Joined:
Aug 20, 2003
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False Blood Amulet is an RPGA item, all of which were removed from the game (unofficially, but then officially WotC never considered the RPGA items to be official, despite being printed in modules with the 4e logo). WotC does weird things some times.
Ah, that explains it a bit better. Still, as long as you're not playing some sort of sanctioned event, I don't see why a DM couldn't allow it, and/or create higher tier versions of it.
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2 months ago ::
Mar 21, 2013 - 4:47AM
#13829
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Date Joined:
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I confirm
Just to clarify - the confirmation is (or should be) on Crimson-vampr's response, not on the proposed the splitting of damage and forced movement from the attack.
The new target of the attack takes all the effects and damage of the attack and the original target ( the strangler or bugbear ) suffers none of the effects because it is not a target of the attack. The grab can still be split up in this manner, but the damage and forced movement both apply to the grabbed character, not the strangler/bugbear.
Thank you for the confirmation.
I have a new question...
Its under Obscured Squares section and the Concealment section of the rules list in the compendium. There's one reality that can dictate in a fantasy world but you have to be overly emerged in einsteinian relativity theories just to model a scale and ranged. LOL and I'm serious about this too, so again LOL!!
I was caught again using the fantasy world reality rules in DnD again. Man, these players are sharp!.
...The question this time is the following:
Can a player makes an opportunity attack and a separate immediate action power during the same turn against the same creature?
(First trigger is leaving an adjacent square of the character in question without shifting and the second trigger is entering an adjacent square of the character in question who has an encounter power that triggers when an enemy enters an adjacent square of the character's. )
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2 months ago ::
Mar 21, 2013 - 6:04AM
#13830
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Yes.
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