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2 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2011 - 4:38PM #8131
Plaguescarred
Date Joined: May 12, 2009
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Sep 1, 2011 -- 12:33PM, ankiyavon wrote:

The effect that changed your size to Large or Huge will tell you.  If it makes no mention, then your reach does not change.

I am with ankiyavon on this.
Huge Size creatures have a Reach of 2-3 normally, yet a Huge Death Boar or Spirehorn Behemoth has only a Reach of 1.

Its like Polearms. Polearms are said to be Reach weapon by nature, yet the Talenta Sharrash Polearm has no Reach whatsoever.

Yan
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2011 - 5:04PM #8132
Alcestis
Date Joined: Oct 7, 2009
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Sep 1, 2011 -- 10:14AM, Mand12 wrote:

It's only a correlation because it's not strictly linear:

# creature size and space

Each creature falls into one of six size categories. A creature’s size determines its space and affects its reach.

SizeSpaceReach
Tiny 1/2 × 1/2 0
Small 1 × 1 1
Medium 1 × 1 1
Large 2 × 2 1 or 2
Huge 3 × 3 2 or 3
Gargantuan 4 × 4 or larger 3 or 4

If you go from Medium to Large, your reach doesn't automatically increase because there can be a Large creature with a reach of 1.  If you go from Medium to Huge, your reach must be at least 2.  Compendium quotes RC 199 as its source, can anyone verify?

Affects =! Determines.

Plus it says "a creature's basic body shape usually determines its reach; a large Ogre has a reach of 2, but a large Horse has a reach of 1." RC 201.

Usually =! always.

Causation = always.

So your reach is not affected by your size unless it says so.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2011 - 6:56PM #8133
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Date Joined: Feb 22, 2011
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2011 - 8:02PM #8134
Humafan
Date Joined: Sep 13, 2009
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Question

I'm making a ranger cleric hybrid who will wield a fullblade.  I really like the level 16 utility power Ranger's Parry.  It says you have to be wielding two melee weapons to use it.  Could I have a gauntlet axe on one hand and still fight with the full blade and qualify for this power?

If not, what can I do to make this work?

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2011 - 8:09PM #8135
Alcestis
Date Joined: Oct 7, 2009
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You're trying to build a class whose entire effectiveness is built around dual-wielding (or using a bow) with a 2her?

Cleric|Barbarian. No charge (which is funny because there will, in fact, be charging).
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 01, 2011 - 8:15PM #8136
Humafan
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Lol, thanks for the recommendation.  I intentionally didn't put this on the charop forum because I know that ranger is not the best for two handers but I have found a way to make it work and it is what I want to do.

So the question is, will the gauntlet axe or a similar no hand weapon qualify for the requirement of that power or is there another way around this within the ranger|cleric framework?
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 02, 2011 - 12:11AM #8137
ChaosMage
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Date Joined: Apr 22, 2001
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Sep 1, 2011 -- 8:15PM, Humafan wrote:

Lol, thanks for the recommendation. I intentionally didn't put this on the charop forum because I know that ranger is not the best for two handers but I have found a way to make it work and it is what I want to do. So the question is, will the gauntlet axe or a similar no hand weapon qualify for the requirement of that power or is there another way around this within the ranger|cleric framework?

There's nothing that stops you from wielding a gauntlet axe and a two handed weapon at the same time, so that should qualify you for anything that requires wielding two melee weapons.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 02, 2011 - 6:36AM #8138
crayne
Date Joined: Dec 18, 2009
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Regarding size modification, if a creature uses a power that cahnges it's size to tiny, is it's reach now reduces to 0, even if the power does not say so?
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2 years ago  ::  Sep 02, 2011 - 1:45PM #8139
Alcestis
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Sep 2, 2011 -- 6:36AM, crayne wrote:

Regarding size modification, if a creature uses a power that cahnges it's size to tiny, is it's reach now reduces to 0, even if the power does not say so?

No, the people who said that are flatly wrong.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 02, 2011 - 2:02PM #8140
mvincent
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2004
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Sep 2, 2011 -- 6:36AM, crayne wrote:

if a creature uses a power that cahnges it's size to tiny, is it's reach now reduces to 0, even if the power does not say so?

Best to ask your DM how they interpret the size and space rules (RC p.199).