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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 4:05AM #13451
crayne
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 2:35AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

My Hybrid's encounters powers go like this:

E1: Class A
E3: Class B
E7: Class A

Can I now retrain the E1 to be from Class B?  I'd keep the requirement of having a power from each class, but I'm slightly iffy about whether this works for some reason.




I don't have access to PHB3 here at work, but i think it is legal, so long you have at least one power of each type of either class. It's just not implemented correctly in the  Character Builder.

Questoin about the following feat :

Ravenous Blessing


Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: You have a spellscar
Benefit: Whenever you target an ally with a healing power, you can choose to take necrotic damage equal to 3 + one-half your level. This damage cannot be decreased in any way. If you choose to take necrotic damage, one ally affected by the power regains hit points equal to your level. If you have the Student of the Plague feat, an ally who regains hit points from this feat also gains a +2 power bonus to saving throws until the end of your next turn.

Does this allow a cleric to heal allies at-will with astral seal (ally is the one whom the cleric attacks)? Seems a bit overpowered to me, especially when you have two such clerics in your party. What i'm missing in the bolded part is "extra hit points". Other similar feats use that wording to ensure, that the feat does not heal anyone, if the healing power does not restore hit points by itself.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 4:43AM #13452
LordOfWeasels
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 4:05AM, crayne wrote:



Ravenous Blessing


Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: You have a spellscar
Benefit: Whenever you target an ally with a healing power,

Does this allow a cleric to heal allies at-will with astral seal (ally is the one whom the cleric attacks)?




No.  Astral Seal doesn't target your allies, and using it on your allies triggers Bag Of Rats and fails.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 5:26AM #13453
crayne
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 4:43AM, LordOfWeasels wrote:

Jan 30, 2013 -- 4:05AM, crayne wrote:



Ravenous Blessing


Heroic Tier
Prerequisite: You have a spellscar
Benefit: Whenever you target an ally with a healing power,

Does this allow a cleric to heal allies at-will with astral seal (ally is the one whom the cleric attacks)?




No.  Astral Seal doesn't target your allies, and using it on your allies triggers Bag Of Rats and fails.



What about the unaugmented version of Energizing Strike (during combat, targeting an enemy) and similar ardent powers with the healing keyword?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 5:35AM #13454
thespaceinvader
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No.  If you're targetting anyone other than your ally (i.e. the creature in the Target: line is not the ally) the feature doesn't come into play.  If you're targetting an ally on purpose with this power in order to heal them, particularly if you're intentionally missing, it's Bag of Rats.

And even then, it's not very good.  You trade a bunch of your HP for theirs.

I've seen one even vaguely good use of this, which is to combine it with a leader-heal, and a feat that heals you when you heal, such that, essentially, you're buffing your healing to little penalty.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 5:54AM #13455
LordOfWeasels
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 5:35AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

No.  If you're targetting anyone other than your ally (i.e. the creature in the Target: line is not the ally) the feature doesn't come into play.  If you're targetting an ally on purpose with this power in order to heal them, particularly if you're intentionally missing, it's Bag of Rats.

And even then, it's not very good.  You trade a bunch of your HP for theirs.

I've seen one even vaguely good use of this, which is to combine it with a leader-heal, and a feat that heals you when you heal, such that, essentially, you're buffing your healing to little penalty.




He was suggesting having *two* clerics do it, and target each other.

(Or, if you've managed to cheat to make it trigger on Astral Seal or something, trigger it while healing your allies and then save your buffed Leader Heals for yourself.)

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 6:23AM #13456
crayne
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Jan 30, 2013 -- 5:35AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

No.  If you're targetting anyone other than your ally (i.e. the creature in the Target: line is not the ally) the feature doesn't come into play.  If you're targetting an ally on purpose with this power in order to heal them, particularly if you're intentionally missing, it's Bag of Rats.

And even then, it's not very good.  You trade a bunch of your HP for theirs.

I've seen one even vaguely good use of this, which is to combine it with a leader-heal, and a feat that heals you when you heal, such that, essentially, you're buffing your healing to little penalty.



Well, i'm combining ravenous blessing with the sensate theme, so at least on enc. util healing powers, i take effectively 3 damage.

After toying with the feat i realized "this might work with at.-will powers, cause the feat does not specify extra hit points", but as you all pointed out it's all bag of rats and ineffective.

But what do you mean with feats that heal me, when i heal someone else? Something like that exists?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 7:06AM #13457
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There's a cleric one that gives you back STR mod HP when you use Healing Word.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 7:27AM #13458
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Question regarding hybrid swordmage...
The rules say the Aegis powers become encounter powers instead of at-will, but the char regains the use of the power if the marked enemy drops to 0 or another mark supersedes it.

Lets take the example of Aegis of Shielding, which says the swordmage can reduce damage from an attack against an ally as an immediate interrupt.
My doubt here is... can this damage reduction be used once every turn while the mark persists? Or can it only be used once on that enemy?


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 8:05AM #13459
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You can use the damage reduction as much as you want, as long as you have an immediate action available to spend.  Unfortunately your one immediate action only refreshes at the start of your turn, which puts a damper on how much you can use it.

There are two things at work here, though.  The power itself, which applies the mark, and the interrupt, which you use after the power has been used.  Hybrid Swordmage changes the usage of the power itself, not the interrupt.  A Hybrid Swordmage is a little less flexible in regards to the mark, having to pick one at a time until it dies or the mark is replaced, rather than being able to switch the mark to a new target with a minor action like the full Swordmage can.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 30, 2013 - 12:32PM #13460
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If a character levels up do they get all the benefits of an extended rest (Regain all HP and surges, powers, action points etc.)?

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