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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 10:51AM #12961
Mand12
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Dec 4, 2012 -- 10:10AM, Plaguescarred wrote:

You just need to have a spellbook. 



Correct, but the fact that it's in the spellbook means precisely nothing if you don't have the class feature that lets the spellbook do something more useful than a doorstop.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 11:11AM #12962
SchutteFamily4
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Dec 4, 2012 -- 10:51AM, Mand12 wrote:


Dec  4, 2012 -- 10:10AM, Plaguescarred wrote:

You just need to have a spellbook. 



Correct, but the fact that it's in the spellbook means precisely nothing if you don't have the class feature that lets the spellbook do something more useful than a doorstop.


Okay, but doesn't that mean that you should be able to use it, even if you are a hybrid wizard? Or because of the hybrid, a wizard suddenly doesn't have a class feature to use a spellbook?

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 11:20AM #12963
Plaguescarred
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Sorry i misread and thought you said you couldn't take the theme, not the power. The CB is correct in how it handles it. If you don't have a X Spellbook feature, you can still take the Theme, but since the L5 feature doesn't let you gain a utility power, it won't do anything since the purpose of the L5 feature is to give you the possibility to select a utility power throught either preperation or retrain rather than to give you an additional one.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 11:46AM #12964
Mand12
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Dec 4, 2012 -- 11:11AM, SchutteFamily4 wrote:

Okay, but doesn't that mean that you should be able to use it, even if you are a hybrid wizard? Or because of the hybrid, a wizard suddenly doesn't have a class feature to use a spellbook?



As a hybrid wizard, you have much of a wizard’s versatility in power selection, but you give up the flexibility provided by the Ritual Casting and Spellbook class features, as well as the Arcane Implement Mastery class feature.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 12:17PM #12965
Plaguescarred
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That's the fluff part though. The revelant part in hybrid wizard rulewise is:  (no Spellbook feature)

Class features: Cantrips
Hybrid Talent Options: Arcane Implement Mastery.


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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 12:22PM #12966
Mand12
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It's not really fluff, when it refers to specific mechanical features that you don't have.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 1:11PM #12967
Plaguescarred
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Yes it is. Fluff text is fluff text regardless of what it says. What matters is which class feature is written wether the fluff corroborate or not.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 1:13PM #12968
SchutteFamily4
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Thank you both very much. I appreciate it!
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 1:35PM #12969
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Q: The swordmage 22 utility power Giant's Might (FRPG) increases your size category. It says that if "this power increases your size to Large, Huge, or Colossal, your space increases to match". I'm pretty certain that Colossal doesn't exist in 4e, and this should have referred to Gargantuan instead. Can anyone confirm this for me?

While I'm here, does Giant's Might works alongside Draconic Form, from the Draconic Incarnation ED (Dragon 388)? If it won't let me go to 4x4 squares and use my massive dragon mini for my character, I'll be pretty disappointed.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 5:03PM #12970
Zathris
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Dec 4, 2012 -- 10:02AM, SchutteFamily4 wrote:

Order Adept Theme question. It says at Level 5, if you have a spellbook, you can add one 2nd-level wizard utility power to it. Does the character have to be a wizard to get this? Or does the character just need to have purchased a spellbook and it doesn't matter what class they are?



Probably worth pointing out that the Character Builder and Compendium entries for the Order Adept Theme are incorrect, they should read:
5th level: You gain a +2 power bonus to Arcana checks. If you have a spellbook, add one 2nd-level wizard utility power to it. If you don’t have a spellbook, you can choose wizard utility powers of a particular level or lower when you gain or retrain utility powers of that level.
10th level: You gain a +1 power bonus to Will. Your power bonus to Arcana checks from this theme increases to +4.

Xaspian: RAW: A Typo that makes the power not function properly due to Colossal not existing means the power wouldn't increase your size to Gargantuan.
RAI: That's silly, the power isn't even very good since it's a Daily power, and the Typo is so stupidly obvious that anyone who's not an Aspie should allow you to use your Mini.

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