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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:15PM #41
GrendeltheElder
Date Joined: Aug 23, 2008
Posts: 42

FponkDamn wrote:

Also - drink a potion as a MINOR? Totally sweet.


PHB lists Drink a potion as a minor action, but our DM makes us ready the potion with a minor action and then drink it with another minor. This means taking two turns or having to swap a move or a standard for a minor to do it in one turn. Is that how it is supposed to work?

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:18PM #42
Orukal
Date Joined: Jan 10, 2007
Posts: 26
Raises hand...

Out of my whole gaming group (6 PCs total), the first time we sat down to toss dice in the 4e world only one (My wife) correctly used the + Con score to determine HP. The rest of us just added our Con modifier. Out of the six we had a total of 3 knocked down due to less than 0 HP and one of those three, after being healed, got knocked down again and died.

My wife was a proud woman after that encounter when she realized what had happend.

Tony...
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:22PM #43
veritascitor
Date Joined: Oct 5, 2007
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GrendeltheElder wrote:

PHB lists Drink a potion as a minor action, but our DM makes us ready the potion with a minor action and then drink it with another minor. This means taking two turns or having to swap a move or a standard for a minor to do it in one turn. Is that how it is supposed to work?


Yes. Drinking the potion assumes you already have it in hand. You need to draw it using a minor action first. (Quickdraw allows you to draw it as a free action).

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:22PM #44
Garry2rs
Date Joined: Jun 11, 2008
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GrendeltheElder wrote:

PHB lists Drink a potion as a minor action, but our DM makes us ready the potion with a minor action and then drink it with another minor. This means taking two turns or having to swap a move or a standard for a minor to do it in one turn. Is that how it is supposed to work?


Minor to pull it out of a bag, minor to drink. Unless you get quick draw, in which case you can draw it with the same action you use to use it.

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:25PM #45
Garry2rs
Date Joined: Jun 11, 2008
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Also, it's a standard action to equip a shield (PHB 289)
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:30PM #46
Katherose
Date Joined: Feb 13, 2008
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GrendeltheElder wrote:

PHB lists Drink a potion as a minor action, but our DM makes us ready the potion with a minor action and then drink it with another minor. This means taking two turns or having to swap a move or a standard for a minor to do it in one turn. Is that how it is supposed to work?


Probably thinking that you aren't always keeping a potion in hand. It would then be a minor action to pull it from your pack.

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:40PM #47
mvincent
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2004
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Seeker95 wrote:

When you used different words than RAW, you presented an interpretation that can be misconstrued as meaning "you have to wait 18 hours to take another extended rest."


Forgive me if I missed your point, but I did not understand the purpose of your post. I used both RAW and the implication of it:
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'Per PHB p.263:
"An extended rest is at least 6 hours long."
"After you finish an extended rest, you have to wait 12 hours before you can begin another one."


This basically means max once every 18 hrs.'
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I did not think it could be misconstrued, but if it could, I did not understand the how rephrasing the middle part alleviated that.

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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 2:54PM #48
Sillen
Date Joined: Jul 5, 2008
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So basicly 18 or 12 depending on if you count from the start of the first to the start of the second, or from the end of the first to the start of the second.
Still ends up the same amount of hours right ?

Anyone want to take a stab at this one for me ?

Sillen wrote:

Slightly related, I havent found any rules on sleep depravity other than there must be 6 hours of sleep in a cycle of 24 hours, otherwise the next extended rest has no effect.

So basicly PC's can stay awake forever
Doesnt seem right..


This seems to suggest I can be awake for two weeks straight, by simply forfieting my next extended rest.
Sounds very odd to me, but is there anything in the rules about sleep deprevation, or will I have to houserule it if it comes up ?

I am White/Green
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 3:34PM #49
enriquebertran
Date Joined: Jul 24, 2008
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Back to the powers and effects:

Mountain Breaking Blow Fighter Attack 17
You land a ringing blow, then push your enemy back without
giving other nearby enemies the opportunity to strike you.
Encounter ✦ Martial, Weapon
Standard Action Melee weapon
Target: One creature
Attack: Strength vs. AC
Hit: 3[W] + Strength modifier damage, and you push the
target 3 squares.

Effect: After the attack, you can shift the same distance you
pushed the target.
You must end your move adjacent to
the target.



If I miss how can this EFFECT still happen?? I only push the target if I hit it.

That rule that all effects happen even on a miss doesn't make sense. This effect clearly doesn't happen after missing.

Where am I wrong?
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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2008 - 3:47PM #50
mrwombat
Date Joined: May 27, 2008
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The effect does happen after missing, you just shift zero squares.
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