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tiornys wrote:

To elaborate on this, if a power says something like:
Attack: Int vs. Fort
Hit: 2d6 + Int modifier damage and the target is stunned (save ends).

the stun effect happens only if you hit. If a power says something like:
Attack: Int vs. Fort
Hit: 2d6 + Int modifier damage.
Effect: The target is stunned (save ends).

then the stun effect happens regardless of whether you hit or miss (and this power I made up as an example is probably too powerful).

t~

ok so basicly i was reading it wrong

thanks for the Clear up.

thought the guy meant first example meant yes and i was about to go "wtf?"

Clutchbone wrote:

Starting gold is 100g, as posted on page 210. Still don't know where the starting wealth rules for a PC above first level are though...

They're in the DMG under the section conveniently labeled "Starting at higher level". Which is about page 145 to 150, if I recall correctly.

Characters starting at higher than 1st level get:

One magic item of one level higher than they are.
One magic item of their level.
One magic item that is one level lower than they are/
Gold equal to the value of a magic item one level lower than the PC.
All the mundane equipment they can eat... well, all the mundane equipment they desire.

tehsquirrely wrote:

#9: You can only take an extended rest once every 16 hours. Seemed fishy after my parties third extended rest in the 5th room of a dungeon.

It's acctually once every 12 hours, isn't it ?

Slightly related, I havent found any rules on sleep depravity other than there must be 6 hours of sleep in a cycle of 24 hours, otherwise the next extended rest has no effect.

So basicly PC's can stay awake forever
Doesnt seem right..