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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 12:53AM
#851
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You can show your DM The PHB FAQ: Which dice do I maximize when scoring a critical hit? Only the dice you would normally roll to calculate damage are maximized. If another bonus (like from a weapon or feat) causes you to roll extra damage dice when scoring a critical hit, those dice are rolled as normal.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 2:59AM
#852
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Date Joined:
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Yeah I have showed it to him, but yesterday he said me:
"- You normally don't use sneak attack and therefore isn't maximized. (talking about a situation with Combat Advantage of course)."
I read a hundred times that sneak attack or hunter quarry or whatelse is maximized but there isn't option. Equally my ask to the Costumer Services is clear enough and they answer me very clear: SA isn't maximized; this takes Daggermaster from Top choice PP to Low level PP and even some powers are affected (like Bloodbath, that does your SA in ongoing (daily lvl 5)).
I can't view the previoius answers about this to other users and therefore i can't reply to CS in an apropiate way.
All the wording on critical errata is too much ambiguous, and this is more accentuated because we aren't english-users (well, a little but sometimes we still lose the meaning of the sentence).
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 3:06AM
#853
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It isn't ambigious to people who speak English. Tell your DM he is an idiot and should take the word of people who can read the language the rule is stated in. CS is stupid and not reliable would also be a good thing to mention.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 4:50AM
#854
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Apr 29, 2007
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I thought about Costumer Service as last word in the game. And yet think it, but it's wrong information ruined games.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 5:13AM
#855
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2010
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They're not. In this case, they're wrong.
If you could have rolled it had you not critted (which includes things like Sneak Attack), it is maximised. If you could only have rolled it due to the crit, it is not. CS are wrong, and not to be trusted, specifically because of cases like this where RAW and RAI are very clear, match perfectly, and they get the answer wrong.
They are no more expert than any of the people on this forum; in fact, they are a lot less so in most cases.
e: Perhaps more to the point, if you look at post #9 of this very thread, you'll see an answer which directly contradicts the one you received, also from CustServ. This is not remotely surprising.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 5:25AM
#856
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Apr 29, 2007
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Yeah I think it also, but i can't success with: All the guys on the forum say that i'm right.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 5:27AM
#857
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Oct 28, 2010
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Ask CustServ again (and again, and again) until they give the correct answer, then use that. If your DM still doesn't think they're irrelevant, get him to do the same thing.
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13 months ago ::
May 29, 2012 - 2:13PM
#858
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Date Joined:
Apr 29, 2007
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It ended well  There is all the post.
| Response Via Email (Support Agent) |
05/29/2012 01:15 PM |
Hello Isaac,
Good question!
Turns out I have mislead you on accident. All additional damage is maximized. (Any damage that is created by that hit.)
I am glad that you got back to me, as I realized I'd given you incorrect information over dinner with my roommate last night. (As you can imagine, we're giant nerds here, and my roommate plays a rogue...)
If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
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| Customer By Web Form (Isaac Lozano) |
05/28/2012 11:31 PM |
Hi Steve,
And if the PC is a barbarian that is hitting with Howling Strike (that has the striker feature implemented into the power), is the additional damage (+1d6/+2d6/+3d6) maximized?
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Howling Strike
With a blood-freezing scream, you throw yourself into the fray.
At-Will Primal, Weapon
Standard Action Melee weapon
Requirement: You must be wielding a melee weapon in two hands.
Target: One creature
Attack: Strength vs. AC
Hit: 1[W] + 1d6 + Strength modifier damage.
Level 11: 1[W] + 2d6 + Strength modifier damage.
Level 21: 2[W] + 3d6 + Strength modifier damage.
Special: When charging, you can use this power in place of a melee basic attack. If you are raging, you can move 2 extra squares as part of the charge.
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The compendium's definition of a critical hit seems to say that the only damage that isn't maximized is the dices that you only throw on a critical hit (like High Crit weapons, feats like Devastating Criticals or magical bonus on critic).
Thank you for your clarification.
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| Response Via Email (Support Agent) |
05/28/2012 06:25 PM |
Hello Isaac,
Thanks for writing in with your questions!
1) Sneak attack dice are not maximized if the hit used to apply them is a critical. Only the initial damage dice are.
2) Any creature below their bloodied value is bloodied, even dying creatures
I hope these answers have helped.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 03, 2012 - 3:26AM
#859
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Date Joined:
May 12, 2009
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FYI Got an official responce from Wizards customer service about how Flurry of Talons works.
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| Response Via Email (Support Agent) |
06/02/2012 02:21 PM |
Hello Carl,
Thank you for contacting Wizards of the Coast Game Support! With Flurry Talons you make three attack roles. If the first attack hits and you miss the other two you roll 1d8+Dex. If you make three attack rolls and miss one of those rolls you get 2d8+Dex. If you hit on all three attacks you get to roll 3d8+Dex.
I hope this was helpful, please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.
Take Care and Good Gaming!
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Yan
Montréal, Canada
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9 months ago ::
Sep 11, 2012 - 3:37PM
#860
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Date Joined:
Mar 28, 2010
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if only they were reliable *sigh*
"Non nobis Domine Sed nomini tuo da gloriam" "I wish for death not because I want to die, but because I seek the war eternal"
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