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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 2:26PM #21
zgrose
Date Joined: Apr 5, 2004
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So fix it.

DMG pg 189

To quote another popular game, "Less QQ, more pew-pew"
"At a certain point, one simply has to accept that some folks will see what they want to see..." Dragon 387
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 3:22PM #22
StormKnight
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While this probably won't kill, say, the Tarrasque, it will sure do a heaping helpin' of damage to it. Plus it will have you sitting around for 50 rounds while the cleric rolls damage and everyone else twiddles their thumbs.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:00PM #23
Lodestone7
Date Joined: May 16, 2008
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The cleric still has to hit. Buffs and that help, but they can still miss. Especially something beyond their level.

If the power needs to be limited, change the last sentence to 'You cannot further sustain this power once you have taken total damage equal to your bloodied value while maintaining this power regardless of healing.' So it doesn't block the healing, it just caps the damage output.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:01PM #24
Derren_S.
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StormKnight wrote:

While this probably won't kill, say, the Tarrasque, it will sure do a heaping helpin' of damage to it. Plus it will have you sitting around for 50 rounds while the cleric rolls damage and everyone else twiddles their thumbs.


Well if you can bloody the Tarrasque with that tactic you can then force it to surrender with a intimidate check.

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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:13PM #25
Wizardmon
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Derren S. wrote:

ZOMG! A level 25+ character can single handly kill any solo enemy of nearly any power level without risk and chance to defend against it once a day!

Totally not broken!


Forseriously. Its freaking epic. You can revive yourself once a day when you die. Its not that different.

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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:13PM #26
omegatec
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yeah really i dont know if the cleric would last 50rounds before the other players started attacking him in some games... maybe my friends are more adhd then yours
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:18PM #27
Derren_S.
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Wizardmon wrote:

Forseriously. Its freaking epic. You can revive yourself once a day when you die. Its not that different.


So because it is epic (still part of the normal D&D level range) it is ok that a single character can destroy every solo enemy without risk?

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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:19PM #28
GenralDread
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At least there is one bright side, this combo would never work on Orcus. with him being able to select what he is gets to be resistant to he would have ER 20/Radiant witch would eat up almost all the damage this spell could do.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:20PM #29
Wizardmon
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Derren S. wrote:

So because it is epic (still part of the normal D&D level range) it is ok that a single character can destroy every solo enemy without risk?


Once a day? Sure, why not.

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5 years ago  ::  Jun 11, 2008 - 4:24PM #30
Derren_S.
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Wizardmon wrote:

Once a day? Sure, why not.


Once per 6 hour rest.
And isn't the Magnificent Mansion spell still in the game which means that at that levels the PCs can rest anywhere?

So you are basically saying that it is ok that at epic level solo enemies, even epic ones, pose no threat anymore?

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