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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 2:00AM #11
Dalzig
Date Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Or they just didn't have rule-lawyer playtesters. THAT was the oversight they made.

*shrug*
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 2:02AM #12
tehsquirrely
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Dalzig wrote:

Or they just didn't have rule-lawyer playtesters. THAT was the oversight they made.

*shrug*


Not all rules lawyers are lawful evil! I consider myself a benevolent neutral good thank you.:D But yeah, maybe WotC should consider hiring someone with a degree in law.:P

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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 5:20AM #13
webrunner
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It says "your weapon damage die" not "your weapon damage DICE", which means it cannot be referring to dual wielding (since both hands now have their own damage die)
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 5:30AM #14
runestar
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Wield means to actually attack with it, the same reason why in 3e, you must actually attack with a defending weapon to get the AC bonus, and not just benefit from simply holding it in your off-hand.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 10:39AM #15
Dalzig
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Joe from CustServ]Wielding a weapon is making an attack with it. You cannot do what you are describing.

Good Gaming!


I am victorious! :D

But I still got ninja'd! Ack wrote:

Wielding a weapon is making an attack with it. You cannot do what you are describing.

Good Gaming![/quote]
I am victorious! :D

But I still got ninja'd! Ack.

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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 10:42AM #16
Ninja_Ferret
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So someone with two weapon feat can get the bonus cus they have to wheild a weapon in both hands. But they cant attack with both weapons.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 11:00AM #17
Chipacabra
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Well, except that the TWF feat doesn't use the word wield at all...
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 11:10AM #18
Ninja_Ferret
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oh snap got me there.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 11:11AM #19
sevensided
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Really, this is a non issue. The connotation of the statement indicates the increase applies only to the damage the shuriken would do. The attack bonus only applies when attacking with a dagger. Trying to eek out something else out of that is bad gamesmanship.
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5 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2008 - 11:27AM #20
tehsquirrely
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Seems I've been beaten by customer service, but for the sake of arguement....

webrunner wrote:

It says "your weapon damage die" not "your weapon damage DICE", which means it cannot be referring to dual wielding (since both hands now have their own damage die)


My weapon still only has 1 damage die, I merely have 2 weapons.

runestar wrote:

Wield means to actually attack with it, the same reason why in 3e, you must actually attack with a defending weapon to get the AC bonus, and not just benefit from simply holding it in your off-hand.


Does the PHB actually say this anywhere? Becuase I havn't seen it. Not that I don't believe you, customer service said the same thing, I'd just like to know if the PBH does in fact actually say this.

sevensided wrote:

Really, this is a non issue. The connotation of the statement indicates the increase applies only to the damage the shuriken would do. The attack bonus only applies when attacking with a dagger. Trying to eek out something else out of that is bad gamesmanship.


The statement doesn't say "the shuriken's weapon damage die," or "when you attack with a shuriken," so this statement in fact implies alot of things. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just pointing out holes in the rules.

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